buying or selling wolf skulls

[blindluck]

I have'nt been able to find if it is legal or not to buy or sell wolf skulls in washington, I know bears are a no no not sure about a wolf, any help would be great. Of course the skulls are from AK.

[Spawnstar]

I don't know why it would be illegal but I can't see why you couldn't sell a bear skull also.

[KFhunter]

http://www.fws.gov/le/interstate-wildlife-and-parts-transport.html

not the total answer, but call the number to your local FWS person for clarification  (big fat NO!)

[CAMPMEAT]

Send it UPS overnight AIR.

[KFhunter]

Send it UPS overnight AIR.

That'd look pretty cool on the x-ray screen 


http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/bill-white-enters-guilty-plea-on-federal-wolf-poaching-other-charges/

[bear hunter]

I would go to Idaho. It is legal to sell animal parts. I picked up a bear claw necklaces when I was younger.  There is a store in Kellogg Id that sells mounts, bones, teeth, claws, skulls, and so on. Good luck If you do give bear skulls,claws parts away there is a clean up fee and you are giving it for free. legal

[Humptulips]

You should PM Alpinist on this site. He buys and sells skulls. He might know.

[CAMPMEAT]

Send it UPS overnight AIR.

That'd look pretty cool on the x-ray screen 


http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/bill-white-enters-guilty-plea-on-federal-wolf-poaching-other-charges/

Wasn't he exporting INTO Canada ? That's a huge difference than shipping a wolf skull from a USA State to a USA State. Show me the law that says it's illegal to do it, like I mentioned.

[CAMPMEAT]

What happens when the tourist in Alaska, buys a wolf hide and skull, to put in his man cave in his mulit-million dollar home in Seattle ?

[KFhunter]

He wont' be able to get a CITES permit,  FWS will have customs confiscate it.

[blindluck]

http://www.fws.gov/le/interstate-wildlife-and-parts-transport.html

not the total answer, but call the number to your local FWS person for clarification  (big fat NO!)

last time I called the game dept. they told me I could buy bear skulls in washington.

[KFhunter]

I'll assume you mean American black bear, they aren't protected to the same extent a wolf is. 


Here is CITES,  see for yourself.

http://checklist.cites.org/#/en/search/output_layout=alphabetical&level_of_listing=0&show_synonyms=1&show_author=1&show_english=1&show_spanish=1&show_french=1&scientific_name=Canis+lupus&page=1&per_page=20

Here's what the appendices mean
http://www.cites.org/eng/app/appendices.php

Article IV
Regulation of Trade in Specimens of Species Included in Appendix II

1. All trade in specimens of species included in Appendix II shall be in accordance with the provisions of this Article.

2. The export of any specimen of a species included in Appendix II shall require the prior grant and presentation of an export permit. An export permit shall only be granted when the following conditions have been met:


(a) a Scientific Authority of the State of export has advised that such export will not be detrimental to the survival of that species;

(b) a Management Authority of the State of export is satisfied that the specimen was not obtained in contravention of the laws of that State for the protection of fauna and flora; and

(c) a Management Authority of the State of export is satisfied that any living specimen will be so prepared and shipped as to minimize the risk of injury, damage to health or cruel treatment.

3. A Scientific Authority in each Party shall monitor both the export permits granted by that State for specimens of species included in Appendix II and the actual exports of such specimens. Whenever a Scientific Authority determines that the export of specimens of any such species should be limited in order to maintain that species throughout its range at a level consistent with its role in the ecosystems in which it occurs and well above the level at which that species might become eligible for inclusion in Appendix I, the Scientific Authority shall advise the appropriate Management Authority of suitable measures to be taken to limit the grant of export permits for specimens of that species.

4. The import of any specimen of a species included in Appendix II shall require the prior presentation of either an export permit or a re-export certificate.

5. The re-export of any specimen of a species included in Appendix II shall require the prior grant and presentation of a re-export certificate. A re-export certificate shall only be granted when the following conditions have been met:

 (a) a Management Authority of the State of re-export is satisfied that the specimen was imported into that State in accordance with the provisions of the present Convention; and

 (b) a Management Authority of the State of re-export is satisfied that any living specimen will be so prepared and shipped as to minimize the risk of injury, damage to health or cruel treatment.
 
6. The introduction from the sea of any specimen of a species included in Appendix II shall require the prior grant of a certificate from a Management Authority of the State of introduction. A certificate shall only be granted when the following conditions have been met:


(a) a Scientific Authority of the State of introduction advises that the introduction will not be detrimental to the survival of the species involved; and

 (b) a Management Authority of the State of introduction is satisfied that any living specimen will be so handled as to minimize the risk of injury, damage to health or cruel treatment.

7. Certificates referred to in paragraph 6 of this Article may be granted on the advice of a Scientific Authority, in consultation with other national scientific authorities or, when appropriate, international scientific authorities, in respect of periods not exceeding one year for total numbers of specimens to be introduced in such periods.

[CAMPMEAT]

So, how does a hunter in Alaska get his wolf trophy sent back to Washington State ? I'm not talking about any other state, just Washington.
What about the wolf hides/skulls you see in antique shops or at flea markets ? Something ain't right........

[KFhunter]

Oh you can if you shoot it yourself, but he's wanting to purchase the skulls and possibly resale them.

Normally an outfitter will do all the necessary forms/paper work.

[blindluck]

these would be skulls bought from trappers in Alaska mailed to me. like wolverine, martin, Lynx WOLF Ect. These are raw skulls to clean and whiten then possibly sell on occasion.

[bugs n bones]

those are all legal, No buying , trading, selling, of BEAR skulls in washington

[Knocker of rocks]

those are all legal, No buying , trading, selling, of BEAR skulls in washington

Clear as mud from the WDFW, but of coarse BnB is correct

http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/123/Can+I+sell+shed+antlers+or+non-edible+parts+of+wildlife+legally+harvested+or+legally+obtained+out-of-state+or+out-of-county%3F
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/122/Can+I+sell+the+non-edible+parts+of+wildlife+legally+harvested+or+obtained+in+Washington%3F

[blindluck]

those are all legal, No buying , trading, selling, of BEAR skulls in washington

Thanks Bugs, last year mill creek actually told me I could buy Black bear skulls, then you set me straight. unbelievable, Thanks

[KFhunter]

those are all legal, No buying , trading, selling, of BEAR skulls in washington

Clear as mud from the WDFW, but of coarse BnB is correct

http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/123/Can+I+sell+shed+antlers+or+non-edible+parts+of+wildlife+legally+harvested+or+legally+obtained+out-of-state+or+out-of-county%3F
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/122/Can+I+sell+the+non-edible+parts+of+wildlife+legally+harvested+or+obtained+in+Washington%3F

It's not a WDFW issue, it's a CITES issue enforced by USFWS.  Wolf is appendix II animal and needs a permit.  The seller of the wolf skull needs to prove the wolf was legally obtained and acquire a CITES permit. 

That's the biggest hurdle to the OP.  There's more, but if he gets that far the rest will fall in place.

http://cites.org/eng/gallery/species/mammal/wolf.html
Common name: Wolf, Grey Wolf, Timber Wolf
Scientific name: Canis lupus
Distribution: Asia, Europe, North America
CITES listing: Appendix II (04/02/1977) and I (popns of Bhutan, India, Nepal and Pakistan - 28/06/1979)
Photo: USFWS/J&K Hollingsworth

[CAMPMEAT]

We all know wolves aren't endangered anymore. You can hunt them in Idaho, Montana, Alaska and Canada...

[bear hunter]

I would just call some taxidermy shops in Idaho or trappers.  drive over there and buy one. F the paper work. Just keep a receipt of the purchase. I don't think the State will knock dawn your door to search for the wolf skull legally purchased.