Outlaw the sale of Shed Antlers

[raydog]

I think we should outlaw anyone who shed hunts and doesn't sell the antler... It's just so selfish to find those antlers and keep them all to yourselves when you could sell them and help stimulate the economy. People need jobs! 

At very least we should redistribute some of the antler wealth from those dang antler hoarders. 30% of their best antlers per year to the antler poor would only be fair since it's everyone's resource!

Antler Communism 

[BLUEBULLS]

I think we should outlaw anyone who shed hunts and doesn't sell the antler... It's just so selfish to find those antlers and keep them all to yourselves when you could sell them and help stimulate the economy. People need jobs! 

At very least we should redistribute some of the antler wealth from those dang antler hoarders. 30% of their best antlers per year to the antler poor would only be fair since it's everyone's resource!

Deal! As long as I get a portion of those whitetail you kill. Remember, they're everyone's resource I'm whitetail mount poor.

[JimmyHoffa]

A sale restriction would have to be national to be somewhat effective.  Otherwise you would have to prohibit export from the state in addition to sale.  Pretty easy to load a truck in WA and drive out of state to sell.

[pd]

I haven't read this entire thread, so forgive any duplication.

I think this is a foolish idea, and wish it were withdrawn from this forum.  Remember that any ban at the state level would not be enforceable on the treaty tribes.  The end result would simply be this: Your proposal would remove the ability of non-tribal citizens to engage in commerce, and secure a monopoly for tribal members for this business. 

Look at the lucrative trade in fireworks that the state has ensured for the tribes, because of the bans on fireworks that do not fit the "safe & sane" requirements.

Please note that this is not a tribal bashing comment (not even in the slightest).  I fully support any citizen's (or legal resident's) rights to engage in commerce.  The sale of antlers (whether from a game farm, or from a shed found on public or private property) is completely harmless.  I wish people would keep their jealously to themselves, and stop suggesting criminalization of perfectly acceptable behavior.

[DBHAWTHORNE]

I haven't read this entire thread, so forgive any duplication.

I think this is a foolish idea, and wish it were withdrawn from this forum.  Remember that any ban at the state level would not be enforceable on the treaty tribes.  The end result would simply be this: Your proposal would remove the ability of non-tribal citizens to engage in commerce, and secure a monopoly for tribal members for this business. 

Look at the lucrative trade in fireworks that the state has ensured for the tribes, because of the bans on fireworks that do not fit the "safe & sane" requirements.

Please note that this is not a tribal bashing comment (not even in the slightest).  I fully support any citizen's (or legal resident's) rights to engage in commerce.  The sale of antlers (whether from a game farm, or from a shed found on public or private property) is completely harmless.  I wish people would keep their jealously to themselves, and stop suggesting criminalization of perfectly acceptable behavior.

 

Same thing will happen with bait.

[DBHAWTHORNE]

I think we should outlaw anyone who shed hunts and doesn't sell the antler... It's just so selfish to find those antlers and keep them all to yourselves when you could sell them and help stimulate the economy. People need jobs! 

At very least we should redistribute some of the antler wealth from those dang antler hoarders. 30% of their best antlers per year to the antler poor would only be fair since it's everyone's resource!

Deal! As long as I get a portion of those whitetail you kill. Remember, they're everyone's resource I'm whitetail mount poor.

  Just go to the public lands in Ferry, Stevens, Spokane, and/or Pend Orielle county to collect your distribution.

[Coastal_native]

I gotta partially agree with the OP.  This is something that probably shouldn't be heavily commercialized, especially on public land.  If it is, it should be regulated in some way...quotas, fees, legal methods, etc.

[pianoman9701]

My  ; dumb idea. Regulations exist currently for sensitive wintering areas and trespassing. Nothing else is needed unless there are additional wintering areas that should be regulated. Illegal shed hunting in those areas should carry a heavy fine.

Otherwise, leave it alone. It's like mushroom picking - there should be no government interference with foraging for something that isn't endangered and re-supplies itself even if picked completely bare. Because it's a commercial shouldn't enter into it. Why not allow citizens to make money on something which costs nothing to grow or manage?

[danderson]

These types of threads play right into the anti hunting community's agenda, Please remove.

[TommyH]

These types of threads play right into the anti hunting community's agenda, Please remove.

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[pianoman9701]

We should apparently never have contentious discussions about anything hunting related. 

[DBHAWTHORNE]

We should apparently never have contentious discussions about anything hunting related. 

  There is truth in what he is saying though ... Everytime one of us shows a desire to "ban" something our fellow hunters do the anti-hunters are more than glad to oblige.... we are doing their job for them.

[pianoman9701]

I think it's good to have these discussions. There are obviously people who agree and disagree in this thread. Maybe some will be swayed to the other side of the discussion by thoughtful dialogue. Screw the anti-hunters. It's one thing to present hunting in a way that non-hunters can relate to. It's another altogether to stop having important discussions based on whether some patchouli-smelling hippie might use to fight hunting down the road. As a matter of fact, I think that these discussion help us with those of the non-hunting crowd who get to see the reasonable-ness of ethical hunters/sportsmen v. the fanaticism of the antis.

[b0bbyg]

My  ; dumb idea. Regulations exist currently for sensitive wintering areas and trespassing. Nothing else is needed unless there are additional wintering areas that should be regulated. Illegal shed hunting in those areas should carry a heavy fine.

Otherwise, leave it alone. It's like mushroom picking - there should be no government interference with foraging for something that isn't endangered and re-supplies itself even if picked completely bare. Because it's a commercial shouldn't enter into it. Why not allow citizens to make money on something which costs nothing to grow or manage?

I agree the initial idea is dumb.

Went Shed hunting for the first time ever this last Saturday ( probably too late in the season but the sun was out and I had no better plans than to hike )

It was fun but I found nothing. But of course there was the one group that took their ATV's around a closed gate that was marked no motorized vehicles. This was in a marked winter habitat area.  There were also guys out there shooting for fun.

I have no issue with the others using the area, but why is it every ATV rider I see is always breaking some rule. I know there are good legal uses and riders, but why are they never in my areas   

[pianoman9701]

My  ; dumb idea. Regulations exist currently for sensitive wintering areas and trespassing. Nothing else is needed unless there are additional wintering areas that should be regulated. Illegal shed hunting in those areas should carry a heavy fine.

Otherwise, leave it alone. It's like mushroom picking - there should be no government interference with foraging for something that isn't endangered and re-supplies itself even if picked completely bare. Because it's a commercial shouldn't enter into it. Why not allow citizens to make money on something which costs nothing to grow or manage?

I agree the initial idea is dumb.

Went Shed hunting for the first time ever this last Saturday ( probably too late in the season but the sun was out and I had no better plans than to hike )

It was fun but I found nothing. But of course there was the one group that took their ATV's around a closed gate that was marked no motorized vehicles. This was in a marked winter habitat area.  There were also guys out there shooting for fun.

I have no issue with the others using the area, but why is it every ATV rider I see is always breaking some rule. I know there are good legal uses and riders, but why are they never in my areas   

Did you report them? Not every ATV rider breaks the law. But the ones who do should pay for it.