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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2015, 02:58:09 PM »
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I think the most telling part of this video is when one of the cops says that they don't care what the law is...
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2015, 03:02:56 PM »
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I think the most telling part of this video is when one of the cops says that they don't care what the law is...

Dale.....very damning statement. I'm won't defend the cops actions or say they don't deserve punishment. There also has to be some, not as much but some, blame on this man for creating this incident.

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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2015, 03:03:55 PM »
 :yeah: He was looking for a reaction and he got it.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2015, 03:04:37 PM »
The jackboot tyranny in this video BOILED MY BLOOD.

That's what it said on www.thefreethoughtproject.com, so it's exactly what I think! Because if you don't agree with what they say on www.thefreethoughtproject.com, well then you're not really a free thinker, are you?!

So you must agree or you're not a free thinker???? Isn't that the opposite of free thinking? Maybe you did that on purpose.  :dunno:

Sorry, it was meant to be sarcastic. A guy looking for a fight ran into a cop willing to oblige. I try not to waste too much hate on these things. I'd say neither of them are dudes I'd want to spend a day fishing with.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2015, 03:06:56 PM »
While the officer may not have been right to try to take the rifle initially, as soon as the guy raised his voice and grabbed the rifle, a threatening movement,  the officer was well within common sense to control and detain the guy. There was no slamming on the hood, no brutality, and he showed great restraint in spite of the way the guy was acting.

  Some folks do things because they can just hoping to find trouble, looks like the case here. This could have gone bad in so many ways, it's lucky this is as far as it went.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2015, 03:07:10 PM »
Yeah, at 0:24, after the police officer let go of his firearm, he grabbed it. Were I a cop, I don't think I'd have waited for him to shoot me, either. It escalated from there.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2015, 03:08:50 PM »
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I think the most telling part of this video is when one of the cops says that they don't care what the law is...

Dale.....very damning statement. I'm won't defend the cops actions or say they don't deserve punishment. There also has to be some, not as much but some, blame on this man for creating this incident.


I'm trying to understand how he broke the law by packing a rifle in farm country? That's the reason the cop hand cuffed him. I probably would have raided my voice at that point too when my rights were violated.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2015, 03:12:06 PM »
Show me once where raising your voice to a cop ever got the yeller what they wanted??  It immediately gives you a fail on the personality test.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2015, 03:16:59 PM »
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I think the most telling part of this video is when one of the cops says that they don't care what the law is...

Dale.....very damning statement. I'm won't defend the cops actions or say they don't deserve punishment. There also has to be some, not as much but some, blame on this man for creating this incident.


I'm trying to understand how he broke the law by packing a rifle in farm country? That's the reason the cop hand cuffed him. I probably would have raided my voice at that point too when my rights were violated.

Watch it again. The cop grabbed him and pulled him in when he put his hands on his firearm. It escalated from there. We have a right to carry. A cop has a right to get really nervous when we put our hands on our firearm.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2015, 03:19:06 PM »
Both could have and should have made better decisions.   That's all I have.   :tup:

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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 03:21:41 PM »
Both could have and should have made better decisions.   That's all I have.   :tup:
:yeah: my thoughts exactly
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2015, 03:34:54 PM »
This guy started "Open Carry Texas" after this incident. Do you suppose that was a spontaneous thing, or was he hiking around with his AR over his shoulder and a camera in his hand just looking for some good video to get things going?
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2015, 03:35:25 PM »
Show me once where raising your voice to a cop ever got the yeller what they wanted??  It immediately gives you a fail on the personality test.

I don't disagree with not needing to raise the voice, but this cop asked for it, he first grabbed the guys gun without cause and without citing what the citizen did wrong. The cop escalated this situation, the citizen was calm until he was strong armed for no reason by the cop.
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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2015, 03:38:48 PM »
You know Dale....I would say he may appear calm but he knew this would happen...he had to have. So, his voice may have not been raised but since I think we can all agree that this was basically set up I think the moment he started walking he was on edge, a bit amped up, and probably much further from calm than every day walking around.

I don't completely disagree with you but rolling up to the situation I bet both him and the cop were far from calm from the very beginnning.

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Re: What do you all think of this?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2015, 03:45:36 PM »
Those who agree with this type of infringement should not be surprised when they are violated.  And it happens all the time.  Constitution doesnt mean much anymore.  Just something for people to spout as their rights are usurped by "Feel threatened" ambiguous statements.  And it doesnt matter if he was trying to stage this-Police complied as predicted and he was in his rights.  As a hunter how many have had guns taken and cuffed like this guy?  Ok now start carrying a legal AR15 and see what happens.
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