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TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« on: December 31, 2008, 02:57:26 PM »
TODAY DECEMBER 31 SOMEONE CALLED INTO KOZI RADIO AND SAID THERE WERE TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH ON THE 30TH AND SHOT 3 OR 4 NICE BUCKS.
THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO KNOW!

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 03:07:36 PM »
 >:( >:( >:(

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 03:24:13 PM »
Happens every year!  There is a tribal member who lives in Wenatchee that kills a lot of big bucks off the winter range including Oklahoma Gulch every winter. 

Glad a non tribal member was able to take that double drop tine buck!

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 03:54:35 PM »
I say, if they want to hunt there "Ansestry Land", they should do it like there ansesters did, Knife, Long Bow, Wooden Arrows, or a Spear, thats it.
They should also be made to fish the w\same way, make there own nets, but not out of monofilanent, use canoes, not motor boats. 

Take Away there guns and let them do it the "OLD" way, then there ansestwrs would be proud......

I want to see them carve there own canoe and fish from it..........
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 03:58:57 PM »
 :yeah:
I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.
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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 04:01:02 PM »
Killing the animals on the winter range. Is that much different than asking for elk hunts in their winter range?

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 04:25:43 PM »
I heard it was the same brothers that have been in the Clockum!!!  >:( >:( >:(

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 04:54:33 PM »
they are going to kill em all.... except the ones on their "sacred land." >:(

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 04:55:41 PM »
I heard it was the same brothers that have been in the Clockum!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Seriously??? >:(

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
This is my question. If they need the meat why do they just shoot a doe? Wht do they have to drop 4 big bucks on the winter range? :twocents:

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2008, 05:19:07 PM »
Ancestry, tradition, native land, blah blah blah!  They shouldnt be able to shoot elk because the elk were introduced into the area not that long ago.  They are too chicken to hunt during the OCT general season because they know that some hunters will politely escort them off the mountain.     

It sounds like F&G cant do much about the taking animals but they should be hammering these guys when they are driving their trucks off roads, spotlighting or shooting from inside the rig.  I like looking at animals on the winter range and in other areas but i think the way to save some of these animals from the NATIVES is to close these areas down after hunting season and make it criminal trespass if they are within certain boundaries during the closure.  Or F&G can close roads because we all know that very few NATIVES will kill a buck or bull 2-3 miles in, even though they only take the antlers/horns.    Sorry guys if i sound bitter. Its because i am.  All of us pay alot of $$ for tags, permits, raffle and we have to wait lots of years to draw but these guys are exempt. 

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 05:28:47 PM »
I guess they were giant ones too!

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 05:41:55 PM »
never fails i always love going to the sportsmans show in yakima in February and seeing the natives carrying in skullcaps by the arm full with dried blood and fat still on them, think those were shot in a "season", it is frustrating isnt it  >:(

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2008, 05:44:05 PM »
Sounds pretty typical, elk hunt the rut with rifles and gun big bucks down on the winter range with rifles all for subsistence of course. If this happens every year maybe the mule deer foundation in wenatchee should propose some gates to be put in on those roads going into those areas and shut them to protect the deer while on their winter range not only from tribal but the crazy shed hunters too. In my opinion gates and dug up roads are the only thing that work with poachers and tribes cause they are lazy. nwhunter

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Re: TRIBAL MEMBERS UP OKLAHOMA GULCH
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2008, 05:51:51 PM »
Killing the animals on the winter range. Is that much different than asking for elk hunts in their winter range?
You must be kidding! Tribal members killing migratory bucks in an area that was never part of their ceded lands is much different than elk hunters asking for the seasons to adjusted. Most of the land that they claim as ceded is B.S. anyway. The Yakimas didn't get on a horse and travel over 100 miles to shoot migratory Mule deer during the worst part of a central washington winter. This herd has enough problems without the Indians shooting the Sh#t out of them too. Elk seasons being pushed out later would still not put a majority of the elk even near their winter range while general season hunters are in the field. Apples and oranges as far as I am concerned. If the Indians would leave the bulls alone, we wouldn't be having the problems that we are with our elk herds. My :twocents: >:( >:( >:(

 


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