Baiting: A possible solution?

[singleshot12]

We didn't have any of these problems before becuase you know why? Hardly anyone baited! Back in the day 20 yrs ago most hunted the traditional way for their venison.

I say we educate the general hunting population away from the baiting norm instead of more laws to keep it. Deer and elk DON'T don't need to be baited for a successful hunt.

 OR make it simple and only allow baiting for the handi-cap and over 65 

Obviously you have never tried still hunting for whitetail in NE WA with a bow when there is 4" of crunchy snow under foot in Nov.
How about this concept: IF IT IS A LEGAL METHOD OF HUNTING SUPPORT YOUR FELLOW HUNTER INSTEAD OF GOING AGAINST THEM!!!!!!
"IF YOU ARE NOT WORKING TO PROTECT HUNTING (WHICH INCLUDES ALL LEGAL METHODS) THEN YOU ARE WORKING TO DESTROY IT"!  Fred Bear said this a long time ago and it couldn't be more spot on today.

Fred Bear was for baiting? I'M NOT WORKING TO PROTECT HUNTING You keep telling yourself and you're gonna believe it! Why does every baiting thread get spun 

[Elkstuffer]

That's definitely doable Dale. But like you I favor NO CHANGE at this time.

[Elkstuffer]

I have no idea if Fred Bear was for or against baiting. Nor did I say that he was. Unfortunately never had the pleasure of talking to him. I do know that he had hunted bears over bait. Based on his writings I also know that he was for hunting by any legal means and knowing that hunter are fighting with other hunters over this would make him roll over in his grave.

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

The solution to baiting is simple.

Only Masters should be allowed to do it.


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[singleshot12]

I say let's keep baiting legal,but at the same time let's educate other hunters that it may not be good for animals and should not fit into the fair chase or ethical category,and maybe it's popularity would go away for the long term good of hunting.   

[jackelope]

This is the sort of bait piles that people are getting fired up about. This is not in Eastern Washington but I've seen pictures of bait piles like this and even bigger from over there too. These sort of piles will change the habits of deer and elk and not necessarily for the better. I'm also in favor of no change, but I'm not gonna lie....this seems to get a little crazy. Not knowing the health impacts this sort of thing has on the herd, I'll reserve personal judgement.
For the record...I have and had multiple baited camera sites but have mostly only used selenium/trace mineral salt and a few pumpkins here and there. I think over 2 years on one salt baited site, I've put down 3 50# bags  of salt and probably have 10-12k pictures from that 1 camera to show for it.

[singleshot12]

  Exactly jack

[ATM green head machine]

I thought you couldn't even bait bears here

[BULLBLASTER]

You completly missed the boat on that one jackelope.    id spell it out but i may get banned.

[BULLBLASTER]

If doe numbers are low in one gmu they dont eliminate all doe harvest statewide. This bait issue is mostly a localized one where it is causing problems. It should be dealt with as an isolated issue.

[jackelope]

You completly missed the boat on that one jackelope.    id spell it out but i may get banned.

Dangit...you're right. Totally missed the boat.
I suck.
 

[BULLBLASTER]

You completly missed the boat on that one jackelope.    id spell it out but i may get banned.

Dangit...you're right. Totally missed the boat.
I suck.
 

I got a good laugh out of it.  maybe your just more mature or civilised than the rest of us.

[jackelope]

You completly missed the boat on that one jackelope.    id spell it out but i may get banned.

Dangit...you're right. Totally missed the boat.
I suck.
 

I got a good laugh out of it.  maybe your just more mature or civilised than the rest of us.

Yes, I would assume that is the case indeed.

[MtnMuley]

Seem more of a divide and conquer tactic to me seems like on fishing & hunting issues this is how the anti's with friends in places hack away @ us! Just my 0.02

That is exactly what it is bowtechian. That is why this is so disturbing to me. Other hunters that enjoy hunting and the outdoors just like everyone else want to attack each other and try to force "their" elitest ways on the rest of us. They think there way is the only way therefore the right way.

Do you really think that those people that spoke Saturday along with you, are really wanting to chip away as an "elitist", or moreover did they present factual information of a problem that is occurring that they're bothered by?? It's disturbing to me that somebody might be too stubborn to see that there might be  an actual problem that needs addressed.........

[ATM green head machine]

everyone's definition of "fare chase" is different. I know there are several legal methods of hunting/fishing that I personally don't agree with, bur I'm not going to regulate opportunity away just because I don't like it.

This would be WDFW's definition, we will charge you a huge "fare" to chase anything.....      

  nice one