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When did Dave Ware become a "wolf recovery expert"?
Quote from: whacker1 on April 01, 2015, 03:41:37 PMI impressed that Dave Ware is now suggesting transplanting to speed recovery. That is a conversation that has not only divided the legislature, but divided many on this site. It was also interesting to see the statistics on the decline in popularity from 80% to 64% as they have spread into the areas that people inhabit. It is amazing to me that people didn't have the foresight to see this coming. But glad to see public opinion falling. Until people live with wolves they simply do not understand there is more to wolves than watching fluffy wolf pups frolicking with butterflies in the meadows! This is an educational curve that happens everywhere that wolves populate. A problem I see is that WA needs to realize that wolves will much more easily fit in if they reduce the burgeoning cougar population to make room for the additional predation by wolves. In terms of impact: 1 cougar = 1 wolf. Amount of big game eaten by either is pretty similar. If they want 500 wolves in WA then we need to reduce the cougar population by at least 500 and the wolves will fit in without as much impact.Current cougar management is so ridiculously non-existent that cougar numbers are at all time highs in many areas and most likely increasing.
I impressed that Dave Ware is now suggesting transplanting to speed recovery. That is a conversation that has not only divided the legislature, but divided many on this site. It was also interesting to see the statistics on the decline in popularity from 80% to 64% as they have spread into the areas that people inhabit. It is amazing to me that people didn't have the foresight to see this coming. But glad to see public opinion falling.
Im all for trans planting wolves to the Mount Si (north bend)area Mount Baker Hwy area, and the Capitol Forrest.The Mental midgets at the WDFW could have foreseen all this if they had looked at other states. The leadership operates from a position of weakness. The wish to pacify hunters so that we keep giving them $ and give in enough to anti hunting groups so that they dont spend too much on lawsuits.
Quote from: bearpaw on April 01, 2015, 04:05:23 PMQuote from: whacker1 on April 01, 2015, 03:41:37 PMI impressed that Dave Ware is now suggesting transplanting to speed recovery. That is a conversation that has not only divided the legislature, but divided many on this site. It was also interesting to see the statistics on the decline in popularity from 80% to 64% as they have spread into the areas that people inhabit. It is amazing to me that people didn't have the foresight to see this coming. But glad to see public opinion falling. Until people live with wolves they simply do not understand there is more to wolves than watching fluffy wolf pups frolicking with butterflies in the meadows! This is an educational curve that happens everywhere that wolves populate. A problem I see is that WA needs to realize that wolves will much more easily fit in if they reduce the burgeoning cougar population to make room for the additional predation by wolves. In terms of impact: 1 cougar = 1 wolf. Amount of big game eaten by either is pretty similar. If they want 500 wolves in WA then we need to reduce the cougar population by at least 500 and the wolves will fit in without as much impact.Current cougar management is so ridiculously non-existent that cougar numbers are at all time highs in many areas and most likely increasing. There was/is a study being for the cougar population around jackson hole, believe its natgeo that has a documentary on it. The study showed wolves in that area either killed or pushed the cats out of the region almost entirely.
Quote from: whacker1 on April 01, 2015, 03:41:37 PMI impressed that Dave Ware is now suggesting transplanting to speed recovery. That is a conversation that has not only divided the legislature, but divided many on this site. It was also interesting to see the statistics on the decline in popularity from 80% to 64% as they have spread into the areas that people inhabit. It is amazing to me that people didn't have the foresight to see this coming. But glad to see public opinion falling. Until people live with wolves they simply do not understand there is more to wolves than watching fluffy wolf pups frolicking with butterflies in the meadows! This is an educational curve that happens everywhere that wolves populate.
Wonder what the possibilities are for one of the wolves to pick up terminal diseases from coming into contact with domestic dogs. Maybe nature will take care of this whole thing on its own via a little assistance from "fluffy".
It is funny that he mentions Centralia in the article since there have been at least 4 wolf sightings within 15 miles of there that I know of. I found tracks and scat in the Boistfort area in January which is very close to Centralia/Chehalis.
Quote from: haus on May 10, 2015, 09:11:57 AMWonder what the possibilities are for one of the wolves to pick up terminal diseases from coming into contact with domestic dogs. Maybe nature will take care of this whole thing on its own via a little assistance from "fluffy".Again, western Washington is probably more of a death trap for wolves than a haven.
Quote from: AspenBud on May 15, 2015, 11:11:04 AMQuote from: haus on May 10, 2015, 09:11:57 AMWonder what the possibilities are for one of the wolves to pick up terminal diseases from coming into contact with domestic dogs. Maybe nature will take care of this whole thing on its own via a little assistance from "fluffy".Again, western Washington is probably more of a death trap for wolves than a haven. if coyotes can survive in good numbers in these huge metro city's then how can you think wolves can't survive and thrive in western Washington? You don't give them much credit. The way over populated western wa still hold deer, elk, bear, and cougar. So how could it possibly be a death trap for wolves?
