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Don't be this guy.

http://q13fox.com/2015/03/22/thief-finds-handgun-when-he-breaks-into-car-in-locked-garage/

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"I'm a responsible gun owner."

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(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.050
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 05:49:14 AM »
That guy is the reason we have theft in this world...  But really the seattleites saying they are concerned that a criminal now has a gun.  Criminals already had guns people.  The I 594 didn't stop them.  That's all this kind of news story portrays is the indoctrination that the new gun law worked, until this guy broke into this one car.  Now we need a new law.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 06:19:53 AM »
Reminds me of FMJ and private Pyle's unlocked footlocker.  Language warning.

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“I’m obviously very concerned that’s someone who’s a criminal now has a gun,” says Ben Trelease.

Because that'll be a first.  The current laws restricting our rights have done such a great job keeping criminals from getting guns.


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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 06:53:52 AM »
That's the only quote I could think of

Reminds me of FMJ and private Pyle's unlocked footlocker.  Language warning.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 07:14:22 AM »
Misdemeanor to store concealed firearm in unlocked vehicle.  Is that respondible gun ownership?  It is reasonable and prudent to lock your vehicle if a firearm is inside,  law be damned. The point of unlocked valuables as a cause of theft is an aside with which I disagree.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 07:21:08 AM »
I agree. 594 is irrelevant in this case.  The guy is a dummy who just gave a gun away.

The criminal however is in violation of 594.  He really should have done his transfer paperwork.   

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 07:22:11 AM »
Not a misdemeanor if the pistol is unloaded. It's a stupid thing to do but not illegal

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 07:26:47 AM »
Not a misdemeanor if the pistol is unloaded. It's a stupid thing to do but not illegal

You have a point. It is stupid, regardless of whether it is illegal.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 07:33:00 AM »
I agree. 594 is irrelevant in this case.  The guy is a dummy who just gave a gun away.

The criminal however is in violation of 594.  He really should have done his transfer paperwork.   

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 07:50:44 AM »
How many here would leave their laptop in an unlocked car? The antis will use this as fuel to start a piece of safe gun storage legislation. Mark my words. The thief is a thief. The gun owner was, at least temporarily, an idiot.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2015, 08:00:16 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 08:08:06 AM »
First off I say BS to the comment that he is a "Responsible Gun Owner" a responsible gun owner would of never left the gun in his vehicle overnight were it could of gotten stolen. Sorry to see the criminal get a gun but due to his own actions it is good the previous owner doesn't have it either
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2015, 08:31:45 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2015, 08:38:59 AM »
What a strange world we live in that most people would excoriate the gun owner who left a gun in his own car and rarely mention the pile of refuse of a thief.  If people would not steal we could all leave our valuables in unlocked cars.  The thief is the problem!
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 09:21:30 AM »
All things being equal, when I am blamed for the theft of personal items because a criminal trespassed and I apparently didn't do all that I could do to prevent the theft.  We are in a bad state.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 09:58:35 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...
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The car was in a locked garage, so it is different than if the car was parked out on a public street.  To me this seems kind of like if a scumnugget breaks into your locked house and steals guns that aren't locked in the safe.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 10:11:31 AM »
Most of us have already stated that stealing is always the fault of no one but the thief. And yes, the car was in a locked garage. I guess that will probably cover the guy, but who says the thief wasn't one of the residents with access? It was a public area for the apartment residents, not the guy's personal home. For you guys who refuse to say the gun owner was stupid, would you have left your gun in your unlocked car in an apartment garage? Your laptop? An expensive TV? It seems mind-blowingly stupid to me, but I live in an urban area and never leave anything in my car, locked or not.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2015, 10:25:14 AM »
Yeah, it still wasn't the wisest choice to leave it in the car----locked or unlocked.  I'd like the security of knowing it was in a more secure area.  Just pointing out that there was a layer of 'thief protection' that the thief broke through.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2015, 10:30:21 AM »
Most of us have already stated that stealing is always the fault of no one but the thief. And yes, the car was in a locked garage. I guess that will probably cover the guy, but who says the thief wasn't one of the residents with access? It was a public area for the apartment residents, not the guy's personal home. For you guys who refuse to say the gun owner was stupid, would you have left your gun in your unlocked car in an apartment garage? Your laptop? An expensive TV? It seems mind-blowingly stupid to me, but I live in an urban area and never leave anything in my car, locked or not.

Do they give out misdemeanors for leaving your car running outside 7-eleven, and your car gets stolen?? Just curious?? How many high speed chases involve stolen vehicles that put more people at risk being chased by the police than a single gun in the hands of a thief?? Not saying it isn't stupid.....but what really is the difference? :)

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 11:15:57 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...
:yeah:
The car was in a locked garage, so it is different than if the car was parked out on a public street.  To me this seems kind of like if a scumnugget breaks into your locked house and steals guns that aren't locked in the safe.

My first thought as well when I saw in a "locked garage".  Next thing you know people will give someone crap because they left their TV all alone, not chained up, in their locked living room... and it got stolen, how dare they.   :bash:

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 11:17:10 AM »
Most of us have already stated that stealing is always the fault of no one but the thief. And yes, the car was in a locked garage. I guess that will probably cover the guy, but who says the thief wasn't one of the residents with access? It was a public area for the apartment residents, not the guy's personal home. For you guys who refuse to say the gun owner was stupid, would you have left your gun in your unlocked car in an apartment garage? Your laptop? An expensive TV? It seems mind-blowingly stupid to me, but I live in an urban area and never leave anything in my car, locked or not.

Do they give out misdemeanors for leaving your car running outside 7-eleven, and your car gets stolen?? Just curious?? How many high speed chases involve stolen vehicles that put more people at risk being chased by the police than a single gun in the hands of a thief?? Not saying it isn't stupid.....but what really is the difference? :)

It's a $150 fine, at least in Clark Co., for leaving your car running while it's unattended.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 11:23:06 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...
:yeah:
The car was in a locked garage, so it is different than if the car was parked out on a public street.  To me this seems kind of like if a scumnugget breaks into your locked house and steals guns that aren't locked in the safe.

My first thought as well when I saw in a "locked garage".  Next thing you know people will give someone crap because they left their TV all alone, not chained up, in their locked living room... and it got stolen, how dare they.   :bash:

So, in this case Loki, you think that leaving a gun in an unlocked car in a garage used by all of the apartment residents was a smart move? Because none of us are saying "hang the guy!" We're just saying that it was a stupid thing to do.And, it obviously was a stupid thing to do because it's gone now. And, there is zero similarity between leaving a gun in your unlocked car in a common apartment garage and leaving your TV (or even your firearms) inside your locked home. The whole population of the apartment complex doesn't have access to the inside of your home. They do to the garage.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2015, 11:25:52 AM »
If it is a community garage, that is a different story.  I'll admit, I did not read the article, just what has been posted here.   :sry:

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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2015, 11:43:31 AM »
It's a $150 fine, at least in Clark Co., for leaving your car running while it's unattended.

I get it, the stupid shall be punished, but when did the paradigm shift that an owner is responsible for the theft of his property.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2015, 11:48:02 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...

No evidence of break in? They don't know how he got in.
Maybe he had code or key?
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2015, 12:08:43 PM »
The gun owner must have more than one self defense gun. I couldn't sleep at night if my gun wasn't under my pillow. I would miss the gun before my wife. (But She works nights) :chuckle:

But for the grace of god and extra security there goes I.

I often have guns in my truck. But when I have to go to the big city I empty everything out. This thief took the path of least resistance. A unlocked car.

Had the car   been locked and equipped with alarm he might have walked by. Not wanting to attract to much attention.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2015, 12:12:48 PM »
It's a $150 fine, at least in Clark Co., for leaving your car running while it's unattended.

I get it, the stupid shall be punished, but when did the paradigm shift that an owner is responsible for the theft of his property.

It never did shift and for about the hundredth time, the responsibility for stealing is always the thief's. That doesn't make the owner less stupid. And yes, when you do something stupid, you often get punished for it. I sure do.  :chuckle: Life is Hard. It's harder when you're stupid. - John Wayne
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2015, 12:33:20 PM »
Just remember one thing, when you own a gun you are responsible for that weapon. When you shoot that weapon you are responsible for what ever that bullet does. If you choose to be careless and illresponsible then you have to manup and face the consequences.  Responsability  is a great thing to have, but misused can be dangerous.

 


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