Every wonder why the big elk are gone by the time you finally draw a tag?

[Karl Blanchard]

I think coach was being a bit sarcastic about his brothers cousins uncle thing.  He nailed it about the firing center though.  That disgusted me this fall.  Same guys, day in, and day out.  Gold crew cab Tacoma that was lifted was one of the offenders.

[baker5150]

So coach was your source with them when they harvested this bull?  I highly doubt it this bull was shot about 10 miles west of whit Swan in the closed area of the reservation. I agree with you on a certain few yakamas out shooting every damn animal with horns. I've been saying it for years something needs to be done to stop that from happening. I just don't agree with people talking smack about a tribal member that I know personally and is not one of those unethical hunters. I've put in alot of time hunting with this guy and I congratulate him on his awesome kill. We seen a bull that was quite a bit bigger then the bull in this post but he was able to sneak away from us. Once again know the story before you start bashing someone. I'm 100% positive non of you know the story about this awesome bull.

It's great that guys like you can set the record straight, especially if someone has bad info.  This is what will keep guys from jumping to conclusions in the future.
But at the same time, just saying you know the "real" story, is just as suspect as the guys who claim it was some random native out slaughtering for fun.  Ive read a few lines on this forum where guys  where 100% positive and ended up completely wrong in the end.

[runamuk]

So coach was your source with them when they harvested this bull?  I highly doubt it this bull was shot about 10 miles west of whit Swan in the closed area of the reservation. I agree with you on a certain few yakamas out shooting every damn animal with horns. I've been saying it for years something needs to be done to stop that from happening. I just don't agree with people talking smack about a tribal member that I know personally and is not one of those unethical hunters. I've put in alot of time hunting with this guy and I congratulate him on his awesome kill. We seen a bull that was quite a bit bigger then the bull in this post but he was able to sneak away from us. Once again know the story before you start bashing someone. I'm 100% positive non of you know the story about this awesome bull.

And I sure would like to but hell who wants to share anything if you are just going to be flamed and bashed and told you don't know where you actually killed your bull etc.
Its a nice bull and its got some cool distinctive stickers.  And if it was killed on the rez well there is a little bit of yummy crow to ate in this thread if you ask me 

[cwbobcathunter]

https://www.facebook.com/238654969604655/photos/pb.238654969604655.-2207520000.1428681314./544254449044704/?type=3&theater
  Here's the same bull, at the kill site.

[Tbar]

So coach was your source with them when they harvested this bull?  I highly doubt it this bull was shot about 10 miles west of whit Swan in the closed area of the reservation. I agree with you on a certain few yakamas out shooting every damn animal with horns. I've been saying it for years something needs to be done to stop that from happening. I just don't agree with people talking smack about a tribal member that I know personally and is not one of those unethical hunters. I've put in alot of time hunting with this guy and I congratulate him on his awesome kill. We seen a bull that was quite a bit bigger then the bull in this post but he was able to sneak away from us. Once again know the story before you start bashing someone. I'm 100% positive non of you know the story about this awesome bull.

And I sure would like to but hell who wants to share anything if you are just going to be flamed and bashed and told you don't know where you actually killed your bull etc.
Its a nice bull and its got some cool distinctive stickers.  And if it was killed on the rez well there is a little bit of yummy crow to ate in this thread if you ask me 

[frazierw]

This thread is ridiculous.  The OP is bordering on slander by posting a picture of someone he doesnt know, with a bull he knows nothing about.  This thread should be deleted.

[Karl Blanchard]

This thread is ridiculous.  The OP is bordering on slander by posting a picture of someone he doesnt know, with a bull he knows nothing about.  This thread should be deleted.

. With all due respect, calling the OP a liar just because somebody else has a different story doesn't make much sense.  I missed where there was PROOF EITHER WAY on where and who killed this bull.  I'm not siding one way or the other but its an unfair assumption on who has the correct story when its purely a he said she said kind of thing.

[frazierw]

How am i supposed to prove a story on a message board?

[mfswallace]

The same way you disprove it, yell LOUDER!!!   

[frazihunt]

To the OP i don't know who you think you are but you had no right posting this picture in the first place. Sure another Native shot a nice bull, was it done legally? sure was! If you have a problem with that, that's fine but don't go throwing names of people out there that you don't even now then proceed to bad mouth their work. That's real "sportsman" like!

[jackelope]

Answer: Indians!

Another bull lost to Indians in the white mans off season! And we wonder why our elk areas only have a limited tag quota it's because the Indians go into it and slaughter how ever many Bulls they want to forcing us to have low numbers of tags.  They need oversight from a third party to issue permits for special draw areas just like we have so we can limit the number of our big Bulls dying.

This thread is ridiculous.  The OP is bordering on slander by posting a picture of someone he doesnt know, with a bull he knows nothing about.  This thread should be deleted.

There is no slander here. He posted facts. A native killed the bull and the taxidermist is a taxidermist.

The taxi's name has been removed. That seems fair.

[cbond3318]

To the OP i don't know who you think you are but you had no right posting this picture in the first place. Sure another Native shot a nice bull, was it done legally? sure was! If you have a problem with that, that's fine but don't go throwing names of people out there that you don't even now then proceed to bad mouth their work. That's real "sportsman" like!

[Practical Approach]

Boldt decision is so corrupt it's not even funny. Guys wife was an Indian and he had Alzheimer's. In all societies throughout the history of mankind other than the current society conquered people become enslaved. In our society they get all kinds of special privilege and monopolies go figure.

Whats the Boldt decision have to do with hunting?

[Tbar]

This thread is ridiculous.  The OP is bordering on slander by posting a picture of someone he doesnt know, with a bull he knows nothing about.  This thread should be deleted.

. With all due respect, calling the OP a liar just because somebody else has a different story doesn't make much sense.  I missed where there was PROOF EITHER WAY on where and who killed this bull.  I'm not siding one way or the other but its an unfair assumption on who has the correct story when its purely a he said she said kind of thing.

Are you(open question) okay with someone posting a picture of you or an animal you legally harvested?  Then take it a step further and paint you (or your animal with someone else) in a negative light? You would be fine with all the unfounded accusations and bashing directed at you and your legally harvested animal?  I know I would not but it's commonplace on this site and unfortunate. Any time it's tribal it's accusatory and negative here.
These are open questions to anyone not trying to single anyone out, put yourself in the hunters shoes. If you want to talk politics and inequity then start a thread about your differing opinions on tribal hunting, don't single out an animal or individual without being willing to cite your facts and sources. I'm not calling anyone a liar but there are multiple members citing specifics on where the bull was killed and the op only makes ambiguous generalizations and refuses to provide any specifics.  I agree this thread should be deleted or the op should come clean with proof of his accusations.

[hunterrcc]

To the OP i don't know who you think you are but you had no right posting this picture in the first place. Sure another Native shot a nice bull, was it done legally? sure was! If you have a problem with that, that's fine but don't go throwing names of people out there that you don't even now then proceed to bad mouth their work. That's real "sportsman" like!

Only because Frazier claims to be the picture taker I will remove it per his request.  As for knowing the quality of the taxi work I have seen a few mounts he has done looks ok at best doesn't even brush the hid down it stick up everywhere.  Maybe that's how you like it but I am just saying the work looked not very good. Imo. And because he supports your slaughter I wouldn't support him for one minute.   As for the bull being killed on Rez I Doubt it.  Nice story though! Also was it a 300" or 400" cuz some seem to think it was 300" and since you have first hand knowledge you should be able to clarify it very easily!