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Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« on: April 16, 2015, 09:43:08 AM »
I read in an earlier thread that someone did. But I think they are reading the regs wrong. The regs state the you may shoot "Gobblers and Turkeys with visible beards ONLY. There is no break in the sentence ( ie comma ) that would exclude the GOBBLERS from the rule.
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2015, 09:48:14 AM »
I don't think I would risk shooting any turkey without a beard regardless of how that reads.  :twocents:
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 09:51:00 AM »
WAC 232-28-342 reads like this:

(b) SPRING SEASON

(i) LEGAL BIRD: Male turkeys and turkeys with visible beards only.
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2015, 09:56:28 AM »
You can shoot "Gobblers and Turkeys with visible beards".  The word 'and' will include both nouns before and after it.  Grammatically, there is no need for a comma to make it refer to on or the other of the items on each side of the 'and'.   :dunno: 

Often WDFW's regs can be confusing, but you are trying to find insanity where it does not currently exist.   :o  It is certainly legal to shoot a Gobbler, it is also certainly legal to shoot a turkey with a visible beard.

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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2015, 10:14:44 AM »
Can someone define "gobbler" to me?
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015, 10:16:41 AM »
I don't think that a bird that gobbles is automatically legal.
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2015, 10:17:26 AM »
Can someone define "gobbler" to me?
Male turkey I'm assuming
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2015, 10:19:56 AM »
Can someone define "gobbler" to me?

If it goes gobble gobble gobble, not quack quack quack, honk honk honk, chirp chirp chirp, or yelp yelp yelp, it is a gobbler, not to be confused with a goober.   :dunno:

Or, it is this... 

gob·bler1

/ˈɡäb(ə)lər/

noun

noun: gobbler; plural noun: gobblers





a person who eats greedily and noisily.

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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2015, 10:20:39 AM »
I don't think I would risk shooting any turkey without a beard regardless of how that reads.  :twocents:



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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 10:23:07 AM »
gobbler
 (ˈɡɒblə)
n
1. (Zoology) a male turkey

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 10:23:50 AM »
You can shoot ANY male turkey, and ANY turkey with a visible beard.  Jakes, adult toms and bearded hens are all legal.
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 10:26:53 AM »
The regs use to say Gobblers or visible beards, now it says visible beards only. I don't know when they changed it. No beard on shoot.

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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 10:27:02 AM »
But officer this hen was gobbling.
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2015, 10:28:49 AM »
I'm just sayin it's written retarded. I'm with pa ben. No beard No shoot. Pretty simple
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Re: Can you shoot a Gobbler without a beard?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2015, 10:37:53 AM »
Male turkeys and turkeys with beards. I talked to a wildlife agent. And also called and talked to those that set the rules at WDFW and they both said male turkeys with or without beards are legal. And they are out there. Also in reference to birds gobbling. Hens will do a mock gobble to ward away toms when they are not ready to mate. Sounds like a poor jake gobble. I have witnessed it many times. So dont shoot birds because they gobble... Just sayin

 


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