washington deer tag choose ONE

[gallion_t]

I have been thinking about this suggestion and read a good number of the post about it. Thought I respect the OP's thoughts ans initiative to coming up with a possible solution I do not feel this is it. To me it is not the correct way to address this issue.

The issue in my mind is the number of deer and quality deer is too low for the number of hunters. The OP is asking people to choose one season/specie of deer to hunt. My question is what percentage of deer hunters actually hunts more than one? In my 15ish years of deer hunting I have only hunted a second species one day. I feel if you were to really look at the numbers the vast majority of hunters only hunt one season now. I dont feel it would really disperse the hunting any better than it currently does. The only thing it would do is for the people that are trying to draw the primo tag for an area/species they dont currently hunt it might effect how they apply for special permits.

I feel the better solution is to work to increase the carrying capacity of the different regions for each species of deer. This would need to be done by better managing predators and the habit the deer live in.

Now people feel the bigger issue that there are too many people for the amount of land there is to hunt then that issue can only be handled by limiting hunting opportunities which I am against.

[PA BEN]

Seems like there is a lot of trophy hunters that like to spend money on hunts. What about the guy who hunts for the meat? What about the local hunters who hunt out their back door?

[longwalker]

Seems like there is a lot of trophy hunters that like to spend money on hunts. What about the guy who hunts for the meat? What about the local hunters who hunt out their back door?

I imagine hunting season would be business as useal for those guys?? I e never advocated for taking away seasons or opertunity. Everyone would have the same opertunity at all the seasons. You'd just have to pick one. No advantage or disadvantage to any one group, freedom of choice and equal opertunity for all the tags would not change. I know the proper reaction to this is a linch mob ready to burn the heretic at the stake but really some of these knee jerk reactions are just laughable

[dscubame]

Reality is though, its a self serving rabbit hole in most cases, not all.

It's funny all the guys that have claimed anyone who wants anything like this does so out of selfish motives, since in all cases those making that accusation are absolutely un willing to give up anything when it comes to there deer hunting. I think that's a pretty good example of irony

Sooo off base.  Reducing hunting opportunity and reducing time in the field.  Just another example of a few imposing their own will on others.  Stop the oppression for heavens sake.  Most sportsman don't give a rip about a big trophy, nice for sure but way down on the priority list of whats important.  Top of list would be the opportunity to get out and hunt as much as possible.  Time afield like my original "knee jerk reaction" comment is important.  Why reduce opportunity and the availability of getting out. 

[dscubame]

I may add that I get out a great deal ( 45 days plus a season in WA alone ) and I do not see the pressure Longwalker speaks of.  Maybe your not walking long enough to get more than a mile away from the nearest road.  Seriously I am all over the state and pressure I have never considered a issue.  I will learn a lesson in some areas and say to myself "oh my there are a lot of people in this area" and move on not to ever return and when I move on I do not have to go far to find adequate low pressure areas and in plenty.

[longwalker]

How about the guy that can only get out for 3-4 days a year and doesn't make enough for a ton of gas money or have the time of for poles of scouting trips. The. Hoes out for late buck and it's the paverbeable pumpkin patch? Wouldn't it be nicer if the pressure was dispersed a little giving him a better quality meat hunt? Or screw that guy right?

[longwalker]

And I've not once said this is because it affects my hunting . Like I mentioned a few pages back, I've never not filled a deer tag and have taken some nice bucks. This is about the betterment of the hunting inwashington state as a whole. I think it can be better. But change or no change I'll keep punching tags

[longwalker]

Keep up the condenseding tone though and references to my screen name, I find it entertaining

[dscubame]

How about the guy that can only get out for 3-4 days a year and doesn't make enough for a ton of gas money or have the time of for poles of scouting trips. The. Hoes out for late buck and it's the paverbeable pumpkin patch? Wouldn't it be nicer if the pressure was dispersed a little giving him a better quality meat hunt? Or screw that guy right?

No problem with the guy in your scenario he can hunt just fine, and thank goodness with the way it is now he would have plenty of opportunity not just limited opportunity as the proposal in this thread suggests.  There is simply great disagreement which is healthy to discuss and not very compelling arguments to change it up as proposed.  IMO

[dscubame]

Keep up the condenseding tone though and references to my screen name, I find it entertaining

Your just sensitive and have not reacted well with those on this thread that wish not to agree with your thoughts.

I will step aside and not add fuel to the fire, just expressed my opinions as have you.  I wish you the best.

[dscubame]

Keep up the condenseding tone though and references to my screen name, I find it entertaining

I thought it was crafty, and harmless fun.  That's what this forum is about.   

[longwalker]

Keep up the condenseding tone though and references to my screen name, I find it entertaining

Your just sensitive and have not reacted well with those on this thread that wish not to agree with your thoughts.

I will step aside and not add fuel to the fire, just expressed my opinions as have you.  I wish you the best.

Huh, I didn't think I had been reacting poorly . I'm am very sensitive little flower though. I guess I just care about you guys and the quality of your hunting experiance too much 

[longwalker]

How about the guy that can only get out for 3-4 days a year and doesn't make enough for a ton of gas money or have the time of for poles of scouting trips. The. Hoes out for late buck and it's the paverbeable pumpkin patch? Wouldn't it be nicer if the pressure was dispersed a little giving him a better quality meat hunt? Or screw that guy right?

No problem with the guy in your scenario he can hunt just fine, and thank goodness with the way it is now he would have plenty of opportunity not just limited opportunity as the proposal in this thread suggests.  There is simply great disagreement which is healthy to discuss and not very compelling arguments to change it up as proposed.  IMO

Well I my scenerio he would have general and late buck to hunt ( both OTC o. The west side )from and probably never even consider going east to hunt. His west side hunt would just be better with the lower numbers since guys had to pick one category and stick with it

[elk247]

What's with this entitlement attitude? It's hunting, nobody is garunteed anything.  If you don't like the results from seasons past gain more knowledge, spend more time in the woods, or hunt harder.
Why do hunters want to impose more restrictions on our sport? Once they take opportunity away they don't give them back. If you want to help the deer population kill more predators. 

[longwalker]

the deer hunting regulations in this state will not remain the way they are. they just wont. the western states are all treading towards a draw system. limited and unlimited but your applying regardless for specific hunts and gmu's. i for one welcome it and hope it comes about in the very near future.  id like it to look something like what ive proposed but really my motives of this post was to see the poll results and see where guys true interest and dedication lie. the 6% choosing the high hunt is about what i figured and what i think that hunt should look like. the rest up there are just wanna bees hoping for a hail marry mule deer knowing when they don't get one they'll just hunt the rest of the year, have there east side drunk fest and shoot a two point blacktail come November. i just hope above all else that when the changes do come they make that hunt a unlimited tag but the only deer hunt you get for the year. then the rest of you can have the other seasons and draws. you'll never see me or 6% of the rest of the guys that actually want that hunt above all others in the lowlands chasing deer or putting in for late tags again. its been a fun and pretty telling thread. thanks guys