Max ethical range

[CP]

My Max ethical range is about 25 yards right now.  I'm hoping to improve enough to stretch that to 30 yards by hunting season.

 

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

All shots have a certain risk factor of becoming less then ideal.... figured out what risk is acceptable for you

Beings that you've never shot an elk I'd highly recommend going and buying the entire born and raised move collection....take pad and pen and keep track of the shot distances and weather the shooter felt sick or excited..pay attention to the 40-50 yard mark

I hate feeling sick after the shot...other guys may not mind it as much..were all different...every situation is different...

Good luck !

LOL, yes just forgot the scene where they kill a bull at 83 yrds in a reprod cut..... : )

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

and IMO it is all about the shooter, animal and many other factors. I have killed a elk at 94, I have also killed 6 other elk from 17- 45 yrds in the last 8 years. I take the best shot I can and am 100% sure of making. A 20 yrd shot should be a gimme with your eyes closed, but some people lose it when a bull is in range.. others are calm as can be, you can only answer that question for yourself.

[CoryTDF]

Here is my little rant about this topic. My friend and I have this debate every year. He is a nothing more than 30 yards guy no matter the situation. I feel like shooting as far as you are confident to shoot kind of guy. When I had my bull tag I shot every day for an hour for the 2 months leading up to my hunt. I shot standing, kneeling, sitting, one uneven ground, and even did cardio and then shot. I was solid to 50 under any conditions and solid to 80 under range conditions. I could stack a group at 70 that would be more than acceptable for most people at 20. Ironically I shot my bull at 8 yards do all that long stuff was for nothing.

So, my buddy who argues against longer shots always brings up the “unknown” factors. Wind, string jump, animal movement, ext. can all turn a good shot into a bad one. I whole heartedly agree with this statement. I also don’t think it’s a good excuse to discredit longer shots. My bull was 8 yards and just as I shot he buckled his leg covering his vital and defecting my arrow into his liver. So this can happen at any range and is just an assumed risk when taking a shot at any distance. My opinion is shoot as far as you are %100 confident you can make a good shot. Good luck out there.

[kentrek]

All shots have a certain risk factor of becoming less then ideal.... figured out what risk is acceptable for you

Beings that you've never shot an elk I'd highly recommend going and buying the entire born and raised move collection....take pad and pen and keep track of the shot distances and weather the shooter felt sick or excited..pay attention to the 40-50 yard mark

I hate feeling sick after the shot...other guys may not mind it as much..were all different...every situation is different...

Good luck !

LOL, yes just forgot the scene where they kill a bull at 83 yrds in a reprod cut..... : )

Is that the one that was hit dead in the shoulder ?? and the shooter looks rite at the camera and says "I don't know"

Or the one in the new film that they found the next morning ??

Don't get me wrong I love these guys videos and love the fact they tell it like it is...I have zero problems with there shooting And what they do...i just thought it would help a newer hunter figure out how comfortable he will be shooting longer distances since it's not the arrow performance that will be the limiting factor

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

no its the one where they smoke him and find him after dark about 60 yrds from where it was shot.

[kentrek]

no its the one where they smoke him and find him after dark about 60 yrds from where it was shot.

Dead in the shoulder isn't exactly "smoked" in my opinion but that's up to the op to distinguish on his own and exactly what I think he can learn by watching the videos

Those dudes kill alot of elk !

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

well that is a double lung shot 100% of the time, what exactly do you consider smoked? 3 in farther back and still in both lungs?

[kentrek]

yes I would consider aiming 3-5 inches back where I'd avoid the shoulder a get complete penetration to be smoked...for me, getting 8 inches of penetration isnt smoked

if you'd like to aim for the shoulder at 80 yards be my guest

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

well dead is dead, double lung is a double lung.... I would imagine he was not aiming for the center of the shoulder, but luckily a elk kill zone is a bit bigger then a baseball afterall. 

[kentrek]

Dead is dead as long it dies ! the only elk I ever lost was due to a shoulder hit that only got to one lung....the elk did die but by the time we found it (next day) the early September heat had done it's duty

[BABackcountryBwhntr]

Dead is dead as long it dies ! the only elk I ever lost was due to a shoulder hit that only got to one lung....the elk did die but by the time we found it (next day) the early September heat had done it's duty

I lost/found my 5x5 bull from 3 years ago 2 days after... it was a 1 lung shot... those are awful on elk... but your deal was not from a shoulder shot, it was from a bad shoulder shot... you get both lungs.... they go down pretty fast no matter if you hit the shoulder or not. I aim 3-5 in behnd it on broadside shots, but to say that hitting the shoulder is bad IMO isnt a true thing. With the bows of today and sharp heads.... you can center punch a shoulder and be just fine... I also prefer to hit behind it.. that bull of mine btw was a quartering too shot at 17 yrds.

[throttlejocky20]

I have a 7 pin sight (80 yards) my longest shot was 65 yards and if i didn't have my old man behind me talking me through it i would have never killed that elk. He ranged it, told me 65 yards and i lowered bow and said that was too far. With a little encouragement and being told to pick a spot and take my time the elk went down.

People can argue ethics until the end of time. You know what your comfortable range is and you shouldn't push the limits. You owe the animal you are trying to harvest that much respect. There is enough that can go wrong with archery there is no need to push the limits.

[bowtechian]

What I try to do is practicing double the distance I'm effective at, so it makes my shots more confident within my effective range

[scotsman]

My daddy taught me tht the measure of a good Hunter wasn't how far away you could kill 'em, it was how close you can kill 'em. If in doubt, learn how to stalk closer.