Muzzy Bullet Question

[Buck Rub Jr]

Hey guys, I'm a muzzleloading rookie and definitely pretty cluesless when it comes to bullets for muzzle loaders. I've beeen trying to do some research on it but would like some others opinions. I'll be shooting a T/C Renegade .54 Cal. I love this gun to death and I'm very comfortable with it. I'll be on a cow elk muzzy hunt and also have multi season deer. I'm not anticipating a shot that's farther out than 100 yards at all, it's pretty thick where we hunt and I'm imagining a shot around 50 yards is most probable but you never know.

So I've narrowed it down to three rounds:
Knight Bloodline .54 Cal 325grain (Comes saboted)
No Excuses .54 Cal 535grain
Barnes Expander MZ .54 Cal 325grain

Would you guys suggest either of these three, or have any other bullets you would suggest over these? Any info is greatly appreciated, I'm having a tough time deciding what I should use. Thanks in advance!

[Sabotloader]

Hey guys, I'm a muzzleloading rookie and definitely pretty cluesless when it comes to bullets for muzzle loaders. I've beeen trying to do some research on it but would like some others opinions. I'll be shooting a T/C Renegade .54 Cal. I love this gun to death and I'm very comfortable with it. I'll be on a cow elk muzzy hunt and also have multi season deer. I'm not anticipating a shot that's farther out than 100 yards at all, it's pretty thick where we hunt and I'm imagining a shot around 50 yards is most probable but you never know.

So I've narrowed it down to three rounds:
Knight Bloodline .54 Cal 325grain (Comes saboted)
No Excuses .54 Cal 535grain
Barnes Expander MZ .54 Cal 325grain
 
Would you guys suggest either of these three, or have any other bullets you would suggest over these? Any info is greatly appreciated, I'm having a tough time deciding what I should use. Thanks in advance!

I am totally biased - but I suggest that one - but now I am worrying about it.  I shoot this bullet sabotless in a couple of my 50's but they are 1-28 twist and will stabilize the bullet very easily.  In a 54 Renegade with a 1-48 twist they and the Barnes might be to long.

Have you shot either of them from the ML before?  I think I would even send Dave at No-excuse an email and see if he thinks his will work in a 1-48 twist. I am just not sure.  I will tell you when I was using a 1-48 I really didn't find a big conical that was real acceptable.

So in reality - I do not have a good answer...

[Buck Rub Jr]

Hey guys, I'm a muzzleloading rookie and definitely pretty cluesless when it comes to bullets for muzzle loaders. I've beeen trying to do some research on it but would like some others opinions. I'll be shooting a T/C Renegade .54 Cal. I love this gun to death and I'm very comfortable with it. I'll be on a cow elk muzzy hunt and also have multi season deer. I'm not anticipating a shot that's farther out than 100 yards at all, it's pretty thick where we hunt and I'm imagining a shot around 50 yards is most probable but you never know.

So I've narrowed it down to three rounds:
Knight Bloodline .54 Cal 325grain (Comes saboted)
No Excuses .54 Cal 535grain
Barnes Expander MZ .54 Cal 325grain
 
Would you guys suggest either of these three, or have any other bullets you would suggest over these? Any info is greatly appreciated, I'm having a tough time deciding what I should use. Thanks in advance!

I am totally biased - but I suggest that one - but now I am worrying about it.  I shoot this bullet sabotless in a couple of my 50's but they are 1-28 twist and will stabilize the bullet very easily.  In a 54 Renegade with a 1-48 twist they and the Barnes might be to long.

Have you shot either of them from the ML before?  I think I would even send Dave at No-excuse an email and see if he thinks his will work in a 1-48 twist. I am just not sure.  I will tell you when I was using a 1-48 I really didn't find a big conical that was real acceptable.

So in reality - I do not have a good answer...

I'll be sure to email him! That helps a lot, thank you sir!

[bobcat]

Those are all great bullets but I'm not sure how well your Renegade will shoot the sabots with its 1 in 48 twist. I used to have the same rifle and it shot the Thompsen Center Maxi Balls really well. You might check out "Precision Rifle Bullets." They have a chart showing which bullet will shoot best for the twist you have. What you'll find is that with the slow 1 in 48 twist you'll want to shoot relatively short bullets. (Which rules out Barnes, or any all copper bullet)

 https://www.prbullet.com/chart.htm

[Buck Rub Jr]

Those are all great bullets but I'm not sure how well your Renegade will shoot the sabots with its 1 in 48 twist. I used to have the same rifle and it shot the Thompsen Center Maxi Balls really well. You might check out "Precision Rifle Bullets." They have a chart showing which bullet will shoot best for the twist you have. What you'll find is that with the slow 1 in 48 twist you'll want to shoot relatively short bullets. (Which rules out Barnes, or any all copper bullet)

 https://www.prbullet.com/chart.htm

Excellent, I'll take a look, thank you!

[JimmyHoffa]

I really like the maxi-balls that bobcat mentioned.  big grooves packed with lube.  Then seat on the felt patch, always got good results.

[bobcat]

Yeah those Maxi Balls may be old fashioned, but so is the T/C Renegade.

Thompsen/Center made the Renegade and they made Maxi Balls- I bet it's no coincidence that the Renegade shot them so well.

[PyroBlack]

These are what I used to shoot out of my 1:48 in 54-cal. Dixie Gunworks still sells them.

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_99_311_313&products_id=3676

[Buck Rub Jr]

Sweet deal, thanks a lot guys!

[Jeeper]

I shoot a Lyman 54 Plains bullet out of my Renegade.  More bearing surface than the maxi. I bought all the types molds I could find many years ago. (When they were still fairly cheap.) Two different Maxiball, Maxi hunter, LEE REAL, round ball. Most shoot well, but the Plains bullet groups great, and is 450 grain. I just got sticker shock when I looked up the mold  #548657. WOW! $90.   If you like to shoot more than a couple times a year, the price of a good mold is worth it.