Tree stand on DNR land

[pope]

You could keep lazy people out of your hang-on tree stand if, instead of leaving climbing sticks, you just hang a quality rope and learn to use these:



They're easier to pack than a climber and create less commotion. When Elmer Fudd encounters your tree stand, he won't know how to ascend the rope you left hanging. While hunting, you can pull up the rope and remove all visible evidence of your ascent. Any of you super-serious archery guys interested? I'll give lessons......$150 plus breakfast for two hours of instruction.

[lokidog]

Those look cool/fun....

[Dan-o]

This thread has been entertaining.

But now I've got to go claim some more public land for my exclusive use.

[jkthomps]

You could keep lazy people out of your hang-on tree stand if, instead of leaving climbing sticks, you just hang a quality rope and learn to use these:



They're easier to pack than a climber and create less commotion. When Elmer Fudd encounters your tree stand, he won't know how to ascend the rope you left hanging. While hunting, you can pull up the rope and remove all visible evidence of your ascent. Any of you super-serious archery guys interested? I'll give lessons......$150 plus breakfast for two hours of instruction.

This is awesome!

[fishnfur]

Those make my back hurt just thinking about pulling myself up a tree with them.   

How do you get down?  Jump?

[pope]

How do you get down?  Jump?

Those make my back hurt just thinking about pulling myself up a tree with them.   

Your legs do most of the work.



You don't even need the device (called "ascenders"). You can get by with two carabiners and a special knot:

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

You could keep lazy people out of your hang-on tree stand if, instead of leaving climbing sticks, you just hang a quality rope and learn to use these:



They're easier to pack than a climber and create less commotion. When Elmer Fudd encounters your tree stand, he won't know how to ascend the rope you left hanging. While hunting, you can pull up the rope and remove all visible evidence of your ascent. Any of you super-serious archery guys interested? I'll give lessons......$150 plus breakfast for two hours of instruction.

Great idea! Can't believe I haven't done this before.

[pope]

Disclaimer 1: I can't tell you this is safer than climbing sticks. You would have to worry that a rodent may have chewed on your rope or anchor. You would always be attached to your rope whereas with climbing sticks, I think most of us "free climb" to our stands and then clip into anchors.

Disclaimer 2: I don't use this method. I've never had problems with stands and sticks going missing, but I don't hunt where others are likely to go.

Anybody interested in my offer for instruction, the price quoted is for up to three people....you could share the cost. The breakfast must include eggs and grits. The curriculum would include how to exit your stand (i.e., how to descend a rope). I have vast experience in rock climbing and have worked as a climbing instructor at Pierce College. I'm skilled in teaching technical subjects.

[Brad Harshman]

... I have vast experience in rock climbing and have worked as a climbing instructor at Pierce College. I'm skilled in teaching technical subjects.

Now we need a philosophy instructure to teach everyone what it means to be ethical.

[Maverick]

So let me get this straight? For all the guys saying how a stand and a truck or camper is totally different scenarios on public land let me ask you this. If you're gone away from your camp and I find it I can grab one of your camp chairs and sit in it and when you show up and see me there you won't be upset at all because you left your "place to sit" on public land right? If you leave your cooler on the ground I'm more than welcome to drink the beer in it to right?

[2labs]

... I have vast experience in rock climbing and have worked as a climbing instructor at Pierce College. I'm skilled in teaching technical subjects.

Now we need a philosophy instructure to teach everyone what it means to be ethical.

Maybe we could get the lady the W.D.F.W. hired?

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

So let me get this straight? For all the guys saying how a stand and a truck or camper is totally different scenarios on public land let me ask you this. If you're gone away from your camp and I find it I can grab one of your camp chairs and sit in it and when you show up and see me there you won't be upset at all because you left your "place to sit" on public land right? If you leave your cooler on the ground I'm more than welcome to drink the beer in it to right?

  

[jkthomps]

So let me get this straight? For all the guys saying how a stand and a truck or camper is totally different scenarios on public land let me ask you this. If you're gone away from your camp and I find it I can grab one of your camp chairs and sit in it and when you show up and see me there you won't be upset at all because you left your "place to sit" on public land right? If you leave your cooler on the ground I'm more than welcome to drink the beer in it to right?

First off, I can't believe I am wasting my time responding to an asinine question, but c'est la vie... beer is involved in your scenario and I can't bite my tongue.  Please read the "laws" and respond with a somewhat educated response next time, apa format would be even better. There are laws which actually prevent people from camping in public land for a certain set time frame. 7 days, 14 days, even 30 days at some places. If you setup a camp for past this time frame, then "in theory" someone could turn the camp in and it could be removed without notice to the owner. So, at this point, you are already breaking the law... The thing with blinds/deer stands is they are not in a designated camping spot, so you are already comparing apples to oranges (if you need me to explain this, I will be more than happy to do so). If you want to get into the detail of the law, a vehicle and/or a camper, trailer or 5th wheel can't even compare/come close to a deer stand or blind. The fact is you are comparing a high value item that is still being used versus a low value "abandoned" item. You are comparing items that are not abandoned, visited daily, and in designated places for those specific items. There is no place in public land that is designated for deer stands or blinds. So, when you use a deer stand, you do it in your immediate control. When you setup your deer stand and leave it to come back at an undetermined time to "claim a piece of public land as your own" you have abandoned that piece of equipment on public land and have therefore abandoned your rights to claim that piece of equipment. This is also illegal because you intentionally or unintentionally have tried to claim public land for personal use/gain. If I need to explain why this is illegal, let me know. Now, if you setup your $200 deer stand on public land and leave it for "x" amount of days, this is now an abandoned piece of equipment (littering by the way) on public land. When someone else comes along and climbs into your stand and you show up to claim your stand, the only thing you can do is ask to get you stand back. You can not physically or threaten anything at this point, but you can ask to have your property returned. If you threaten in anyway, specifically with a "weapon" in possession, or anything you do that leads to an altercation or physical altercation, you will be s.o.l and probably be calling me or your defense lawyer.

Now, to discuss the cooler full or beer. If you have good beer in your cooler and you have abandoned it, I may have to take it so it doesn't get wasted.

Moral of the story, don't compare apples to oranges, and look at the RCW for abandoned property on public land. And for those people who say "would love to see someone in my stand" or "I would kick butt if someone was in my stand" or what ever it is the internet tough guys are saying these days, I hope I am in your stand and you try to be tough   


oh and sorry for the misspelling and inability to quote specific references at this point, I just got off the mountain and this was a lot to type with my thumbs.

[chester]

So let me get this straight? For all the guys saying how a stand and a truck or camper is totally different scenarios on public land let me ask you this. If you're gone away from your camp and I find it I can grab one of your camp chairs and sit in it and when you show up and see me there you won't be upset at all because you left your "place to sit" on public land right? If you leave your cooler on the ground I'm more than welcome to drink the beer in it to right?

Personally If your sitting in a chair no big deal to me. I've met people that way before just stopping by camp. It's not like you're rummaging through a tent or siphoning gas. I'm not all that anti social. And don't mind talking with other hunters especially if I think they might know the area .And if you drink the beer well that's just taking the bait, those aren't for me , they are to loosen lips about the area


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[Drifterat]

A lot of good points. All I know is if I show up at my stand and someone is in it they can stay there and sit all they want. Just know that I'm going to be taking my bottom 3 ladders out with me. Hate to be a litter bug.