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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2015, 09:57:38 AM »
yes a convicted felon may own black powder weapons and hunt with them or archery equipment.

I wonder why you disagree with several others who stated the correct answer above?  :dunno:

Why do you assume that a "black powder" firearm is a modern inline?  A felon may possess and use a traditional muzzle loading black powder rifle using powder and projectile.  Archery equipment not being governed by  the GCA/68 is not even regulated.  So yes a felon may lawfully purchase and use black powder weapons and archery equipment.   

From the cited document: 

Thus, a muzzle loading weapon that meets the definition of an “antique firearm” is not a firearm and may lawfully be received and possessed by a prohibited person under the GCA.
In addition, the GCA defines the term “ammunition” to mean “ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.” Because an “antique firearm” is not a “firearm,” it would is lawful for a prohibited person to receive or possess black powder designed for use in an “antique firearm.” Also, the Federal explosives laws do not make it unlawful for a prohibited person to acquire and possess black powder in quantities not exceeding fifty pounds if it is intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in “antique firearms.” See 18 U.S.C. § 845(a)(5)

In Washington a black powder rifle is legally considered a firearm.

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2015, 09:58:43 AM »
yes a convicted felon may own black powder weapons and hunt with them or archery equipment.

I wonder why you disagree with several others who stated the correct answer above?  :dunno:

Why do you assume that a "black powder" firearm is a modern inline?  A felon may possess and use a traditional muzzle loading black powder rifle using powder and projectile.  Archery equipment not being governed by  the GCA/68 is not even regulated.  So yes a felon may lawfully purchase and use black powder weapons and archery equipment.   

From the cited document: 

Thus, a muzzle loading weapon that meets the definition of an “antique firearm” is not a firearm and may lawfully be received and possessed by a prohibited person under the GCA.
In addition, the GCA defines the term “ammunition” to mean “ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.” Because an “antique firearm” is not a “firearm,” it would is lawful for a prohibited person to receive or possess black powder designed for use in an “antique firearm.” Also, the Federal explosives laws do not make it unlawful for a prohibited person to acquire and possess black powder in quantities not exceeding fifty pounds if it is intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in “antique firearms.” See 18 U.S.C. § 845(a)(5)


You must read the state laws also  :bash: :bash: :bash:

Even a potato gun is a firearm in Washington

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2015, 09:59:53 AM »
Man up and admit you're wrong.

Or this will become the thread du jour

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 10:05:31 AM »
Can a person with a felony hunt with a muzzle-loader. I have a guy at work who has a felony and said he Muzzy hunts. I told him he might want to look into that. I am under the understanding that he would only be able to hunt with a bow

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Well since my manhood is called into question...  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/chuckle.gif

The original question was can a felon possess an hunt with a muzzle loader.  The answer is YES.  What can I say ask a lawyer a question and you get a lawyer's answer.  Here is one for you, can a felon, in the state of Washington, legally purchase a "modern firearm or black powder" hunting license?
 
Lawyers can be wrong, as has been proven.

Yes a felon can purchase a hunting license, and legally hunt with archery equipment.

Besides correcting the Hunt WA members, you need to get WDFW straightened out now:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/121/Can+a+felon+possess+or+use+a+muzzleloader%2C+rifle%2C+handgun%2C+or+shotgun+for+hunting%3F

Can a felon possess or use a muzzleloader, rifle, handgun, or shotgun for hunting?

No, unless the felon has had his/her right-to-bear-arms restored through a state superior court. If the felon’s rights have been restored, he/she can use muzzleloaders, rifles, handguns, and shotguns to hunt. But if the felon has not had his/her firearm rights restored, then he/she cannot possess a handgun, shotgun, muzzleloader, or rifle.
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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2015, 10:06:09 AM »
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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2015, 10:18:09 AM »
That is always what I understood.  A guy at work asked me if he could Muzzy hunt if he was a felon. I told him no unless he had his rights restored but he hasn't. But just wanted to double check

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2015, 10:19:29 AM »
  Washington state law appllies in Washington, not in Idaho, Oregon or any other state.  So the answer to the question of  "can he" is "yes". 

Idaho's law is similar Washington in that muzzle loaders are defined as a firearm in 18-3302 (2)(d)

It seems like Oregons laws are the same too.  I will leave it up to you to parse the other 47 states and several territories to find a state exemption which will define a muzzle loader not as a firearm

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2015, 10:48:37 AM »
yes a convicted felon may own black powder weapons and hunt with them or archery equipment.


yes a convicted felon may own black powder weapons and hunt with them or archery equipment.

I wonder why you disagree with several others who stated the correct answer above?  :dunno:

Why do you assume that a "black powder" firearm is a modern inline?  A felon may possess and use a traditional muzzle loading black powder rifle using powder and projectile.  Archery equipment not being governed by  the GCA/68 is not even regulated.  So yes a felon may lawfully purchase and use black powder weapons and archery equipment.   Washington state law appllies in Washington, not in Idaho, Oregon or any other state.  So the answer to the question of  "can he" is "yes". 

From the cited document: 

Thus, a muzzle loading weapon that meets the definition of an “antique firearm” is not a firearm and may lawfully be received and possessed by a prohibited person under the GCA.
In addition, the GCA defines the term “ammunition” to mean “ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.” Because an “antique firearm” is not a “firearm,” it would is lawful for a prohibited person to receive or possess black powder designed for use in an “antique firearm.” Also, the Federal explosives laws do not make it unlawful for a prohibited person to acquire and possess black powder in quantities not exceeding fifty pounds if it is intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in “antique firearms.” See 18 U.S.C. § 845(a)(5)


  Washington state law appllies in Washington, not in Idaho, Oregon or any other state.  So the answer to the question of  "can he" is "yes". 

Idaho's law is similar Washington in that muzzle loaders are defined as a firearm in 18-3302 (2)(d)

It seems like Oregons laws are the same too.  I will leave it up to you to parse the other 47 states and several territories to find a state exemption which will define a muzzle loader not as a firearm


WOW!!   :DOH:

Make an incorrect statement, then when repeatedly proven that statement is incorrect, continue to defend it out of either ignorance or just because it is fun to play games....really??

Since this is a Washington State Hunting forum, is it really necessary that the OP have to specify that he is inquiring about Washington law???

Based on the comments, maybe yes, which is just sad!!


Just curious, why, after having been clearly shown that the answer is "No" for Washington, why you continue to argue it??












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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2015, 12:01:25 PM »
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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2015, 01:23:45 PM »
Not in washington you cannot. This is y i bowhunt lol

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2015, 10:16:37 PM »
Fed and state laws differ. Under fedlaw a ml is notba " firearm"

No felons can possess a ml in WA

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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2015, 10:37:00 PM »
I'm a felon. You cannot hunt with a muzzleloader. Dont even try it. If someone says they're a felon and muzzy hunt either 1. They braking some serious laws or 2. They're full of ish.
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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2015, 10:39:38 PM »
Hello Smossy. Can you get your rights restored?
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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2015, 10:40:50 PM »

Hello Smossy. Can you get your rights restored?
Me personally, no.. I have a class A
Some other felons may be able to though.
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Re: Can a person with a felony!!!
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2015, 10:44:32 PM »
Thanks, sorry for the baby hijack, carry on.
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