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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2015, 03:21:48 PM »
Didn't you already lose one dog to wolves like a few weeks ago. Less wolves around and you might still have your hound. Wolves 1 johnathon 0 sorry to be a prick and sorry to hear about your dog.
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2015, 03:32:58 PM »
You high?  No I lost a dog that ran off on a rabbit trail and was a dumb young pup.  More likely that it was ran over by a car than eaten by a wolf.  Maybe a coyote ate him, should I poison every neighborhood dog in vengeance?

Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2015, 03:37:57 PM »
First off I dont think individuals poisoning is the answer. Mostly because its not effective @ making a big difference because it has to be done illegally and in a less that organised manner. Just like  the 3s method. It makes you feel better but has a small impact overall.

I personally think releasing a pack on the Samamish Plateau would  make a bigger difference.

The system is not concerned with what we think because its not being run from a sportsmens perspective.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2015, 03:41:03 PM »
You high?  No I lost a dog that ran off on a rabbit trail and was a dumb young pup.  More likely that it was ran over by a car than eaten by a wolf.  Maybe a coyote ate him, should I poison every neighborhood dog in vengeance?

I thought you live in area where wolves live. You cannot deny that if a wolf sees a young dog its snack time.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2015, 03:44:35 PM »
First off I dont think individuals poisoning is the answer. Mostly because its not effective @ making a big difference because it has to be done illegally and in a less that organised manner. Just like  the 3s method. It makes you feel better but has a small impact overall.

I personally think releasing a pack on the Samamish Plateau would  make a bigger difference.

The system is not concerned with what we think because its not being run from a sportsmens perspective.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2015, 03:50:28 PM »
I personally thing organised wholesale poisening, trapping arial gunning would be the way to go. Informing the public that we are at war with these wolves from the McKenzie valley. Unfortunatly my way of thinking has very little support.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2015, 03:54:58 PM »
You high?  No I lost a dog that ran off on a rabbit trail and was a dumb young pup.  More likely that it was ran over by a car than eaten by a wolf.  Maybe a coyote ate him, should I poison every neighborhood dog in vengeance?

I thought you live in area where wolves live. You cannot deny that if a wolf sees a young dog its snack time.

No there are no wolves currently living in or very near Medical Lake.  There is a house on every 20-40 acres. 

Of course a wolf would eat a beagle pup.  So would a coyote and there are dozens of them.  I'm more worried that he was shot by the psycho down the road who kills every "stray" that he sees.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2015, 04:01:30 PM »
The responce you hear from WaPatriot is a direct result of how sportmen and rancher have been treated by this state.

Aren't hunters with hounds and bird dogs also sportsmen?

Arguably they have far more skin in the game than the average hunter when they put a dog on the ground, especially in wolf country. You can attempt to do something about a predator attacking a dog if you're in range. Poison? There is nothing you can do against that.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2015, 04:02:47 PM »
getting a little off track here.....
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2015, 04:03:27 PM »
You have to be ignorant to think that magic meatballs don't work.

That's actually a matter of some debate. Wolves are smarter than coyotes and given how hard they can be to trap it's not unfair to assume that once they wise up to human related scents they stay away from human created items like store bought meat. Remember, these are animals that have been documented as having split up to obfuscate the scent for hounds chasing them.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2015, 04:07:37 PM »
Of couse they are. If you read my other statements you should be able to understand where im coming from. I have a dog myself so I dont have a bunch of love for poisen. I do recognize that when government creates a problem, exacerbates it, then takes away most of the affected peoples recourse to reduce the burdon you get push back.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2015, 04:10:46 PM »
I personally thing organised wholesale poisening, trapping arial gunning would be the way to go. Informing the public that we are at war with these wolves from the McKenzie valley. Unfortunatly my way of thinking has very little support.

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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2015, 05:03:42 PM »
Who didn't think DIY management was going to be a problem in WA, especially in the total absence of state management and worse all the infuriating deceit and garbage that's been pawned off on rural residents living in wolf country.  DIY management sucks, it's ineffective and creates more problems than it solves but it's no surprise - it's just one more risk stacked on top of the already high amount of risk taking dogs in the woods for whatever reason. 

So far I think it's mostly grumbling and suggestive talk; I haven't seen nor heard of dead coyotes, wolves or scores of dead birds surrounding any carcasses.
I will say I've had some 'beat around the bush' whispered warnings to not let my bird dog get into any carcasses.  I keep her pretty close, but if she came across a magic meatball I'd be out a dog because she'd have that scarfed up so quick I wouldn't know what it was if I even seen her eat it, and it's not like someone is going to hang around and let me know they put that meatball there.    Not sure how some of you fella's posting are going to exact revenge on someone tossing meatballs out the window  :dunno:

Bird dogs are a lot less risk than noisy hounds on a chase from direct wolf conflict, but higher risk for poisoning.




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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2015, 08:19:02 PM »
Those who advocate illegal poisoning or even passively suggest it is an acceptable response to disappointment in how the state handles wolves are ignorant and do more damage to hunting long-term in this state than wolves ever could.
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Re: Hydatid cyst
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2015, 10:00:54 PM »
Not sure how some of you fella's posting are going to exact revenge on someone tossing meatballs out the window  :dunno:




I would be very proactive in this circumstance.  If I hear anyone is poisoning in an area I hunt I will make contact with them immediately.

WApatriot, did you seriously just suggest that I muzzle my hounds?!?  HOW ABOUT IGNORANT REDNECKS DONT LEAVE POISON IN THE WOODS INSTEAD?!?   My hounds are at enough risk when they work; I should not have to worry about some idiot leaving laced meat in the woods. 

 


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