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season recs
« on: January 21, 2009, 07:58:09 PM »
Guys we need to make ALOT of noise on this one, talk about BIG TIME overreaction by the WDFW. Private land only hunting the month of August becuase of one incident.  We better make some serious noise on this, if we lose this opportunity I'll be buying a hancock permit for sure.  :bash: >:(

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Re: season recs
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 08:47:27 PM »
I hate the proposal. We should fight it and also I believe a compromise would be to have August open for archery.

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Re: season recs
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 08:49:29 PM »
I hate the proposal. We should fight it and also I believe a compromise would be to have August open for archery.

Make it muzzleloader and archery and I'd support that.

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Re: season recs
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 08:49:51 PM »
I'd be ok with that too.

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Re: season recs
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 08:52:56 PM »
I hate the proposal. We should fight it and also I believe a compromise would be to have August open for archery.

Make it muzzleloader and archery and I'd support that.

Screw compromise.  Close it for hikers for August if it isn't safe.  Who pays the bills anyway?

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Re: season recs
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 08:57:32 PM »
I was trying to think of a thought out plan to post in the bear forum regarding this proposal. I think you guys have some great ideas and I think we should come up with a plan. Something thought out and sent to the right people. This knee jerk reaction is not good management, but I also see that they stated the population is stable or slightly decreasing so they may use that against us.

I am sick about this. With kids in school, August is the only time my family can camp and hunt with good weather. It is also just a great time to be out in the woods.




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Re: season recs
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 08:58:03 PM »
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Screw compromise

Yeah that!  Keep it open, no reason to make this dramatic of a change due to one incident in 25 years, a 1 in who knows how many million odds.  BS.

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 08:58:08 PM »
That will never go through. Hikers buy a ton of trail park passes and they have droves of people who "maintain trails" as well as non profit groups who are stewards of the wilderness. Not saying I agree with all of their organizations but they are not exactly the type of user group that you can just "close the door" for the sake of hunting. In fact I think that sort of totalitarian thinking and ownership line of thought is more problematic to hunters in general. No single user groups owns the public lands. It has to be shared reasonably.. Even if you feel disdain with another user group. Pitting hikers versus hunters and closures for hikers is not really the answer.

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Re: season recs
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 08:59:44 PM »
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Screw compromise

Yeah that!  Keep it open, no reason to make this dramatic of a change due to one incident in 25 years, a 1 in who knows how many million odds.  BS.

I agree, but we also need a back up plan. I do not want to give up my August rifle hunts, but I would hate to give up all hunting in August more.




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Re: season recs
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 09:01:00 PM »
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Screw compromise

Yeah that!  Keep it open, no reason to make this dramatic of a change due to one incident in 25 years, a 1 in who knows how many million odds.  BS.

I agree, but we also need a back up plan. I do not want to give up my August rifle hunts, but I would hate to give up all hunting in August more.

I agree. It's a game. Try to corner them and have a backup plan to mitigate losses.

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Re: season recs
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 09:02:44 PM »
Closing the CF in the spring and now state lands in August will cut almost 75% of my bear hunting. I guess I should think about all the money I will save? :dunno: :bash:




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Re: season recs
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 09:06:51 PM »
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Screw compromise

Yeah that!  Keep it open, no reason to make this dramatic of a change due to one incident in 25 years, a 1 in who knows how many million odds.  BS.

I'm not happy at all with the closure of bear hunting on public lands in August, but if it was that or hunt with muzzleloader or bow, then I'd rather be out there with my muzzleloader than not at all.

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Re: season recs
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 09:08:33 PM »
That will never go through. Hikers buy a ton of trail park passes and they have droves of people who "maintain trails" as well as non profit groups who are stewards of the wilderness. Not saying I agree with all of their organizations but they are not exactly the type of user group that you can just "close the door" for the sake of hunting. In fact I think that sort of totalitarian thinking and ownership line of thought is more problematic to hunters in general. No single user groups owns the public lands. It has to be shared reasonably.. Even if you feel disdain with another user group. Pitting hikers versus hunters and closures for hikers is not really the answer.

Compromise isn't solving anything.  Compromise is the noose closing ever so gently tighter around your neck.  Compromising on Archery/Muzzy equip. versus firearm seems very logical and if they have a willing ear will, they will listen.  However, the writing is on the wall and the noose tightens.  If they can keep you out of the public lands in August, how about Labor day too, since that is popular?  How about the weekends, since more people hike on weekends?  

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Re: season recs
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 09:09:16 PM »
My question is who is going to kill the bears?  What happens when the bears start attacking/eating the hikers themselves?  :o
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