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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2015, 04:01:36 PM »
 
You guys sure sound anti-pike to me.  Most of the pike are moderates and are nothing to worry about.

Not sure what their political affiliation is for sure, but, pike on pike violence is at an all time high and they're becoming startlingly dependent on social services bait fish feeding stations. I believe these are indicators at a minimum of some deep issues that need addressing before they trans-migrate to a new environment.
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2015, 04:06:44 PM »
Well said Gobble Doc...Everyone gets all worked up when ever someone says pike and I don't know why. They are great eating and fun to catch and fight good. Why is it lakes back east and Canada hold Pike, Walleye, trout, spiny rays and yes Salmon and they all live together and they all thrive in harmony. These same lakes are also producing state record size fish. Why is it this state is always trying to play god, like they know better. When will the state finally figure out there's more to this state then just catching trout. Its not bad to have a bunch of different species to fish for. Not everyone wants to catch trout. Last MT Lake in Saskatchewan has monster pike and some of the biggest and healthiest Walleye I have ever caught. How can this be? why aren't the Pike eating all the Walleye? Why because nature has it under control that's why. We see WDFW stepping in all the time and most times they screw it up when it comes to playing god. The pike were never illegally put into the PO River they came down in the high waters in the 90's from Dillion Montana. If the state thinks the next time we have high water like again that they wont be back I have some water front property in the desert for them. This is always a touchy subject but people need to be properly informed and not getting info that is incorrect or lies. I have been involved with this issue for over 6 yrs now and have heard it all..
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2015, 04:29:28 PM »
Sprague is good example of a lake that the State should keep its hands off!!
That could and has been a great Smallmouth lake. How many times have those clowns poisoned that lake?
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2015, 05:21:08 PM »
A great example and how many times have they killed that lake off and still nothing...
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2015, 06:21:19 PM »
The pike were never illegally put into the PO River they came down in the high waters in the 90's from Dillion Montana.

Last time I checked, Dillon is on the east side of the Continental Divide.
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2015, 06:25:21 PM »
Whats the continental divide have to do with it? I mean they weren't put into the PO by a bucket biologist.
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2015, 06:43:49 PM »
For them to try to eradicate the Northerns is just like them managing the wolves we have. Can't be done in that body of water.

They've had pretty good luck knocking the numbers way down in the Pend Oreille system, don't know why this one is any different.  Pike go to shallow water to spawn and are vulnerable, just like mule deer in the rut.

In April/May (Pike spawn) the reservoir is really drawn down low, there really isn't much in the way of shallow water spawning beds.  June the water tables are coming up rapidly and fill in a lot of the sloughs for the grass carp spawn mid June/July.  By July the water is all the way up.

Just curious and hoping you knew, if the Pike are early spring spawners how they could be targeted and not adversely effect the grass carp, walleye and small mouth bass that also use the sloughs.  I assume they use rotenone.

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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2015, 06:49:49 PM »
Whats the continental divide have to do with it? I mean they weren't put into the PO by a bucket biologist.

Just like they get in to the Spokane river from lake CDA and then over little falls and into Roosevelt and then on their way.

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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2015, 06:51:51 PM »
They use gill nets that only target Pike lol..that's what we were told. I don't know of a net that only catches one type of fish. The nets will kill Walleye and Small mouth and other species along with Pike that's a guarantee. The nets on the PO River killed tons of big over 5lb Largemouth and Smallmouth. I witnessed it myself may time while guiding up there.
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2015, 06:52:17 PM »
The pike were never illegally put into the PO River they came down in the high waters in the 90's from Dillion Montana.

Last time I checked, Dillon is on the east side of the Continental Divide.
What path would they take?  From the reservoir outside Dillon to where?

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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2015, 06:53:19 PM »
That's true so why not be worried about Long Lake then???I agree
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2015, 06:54:33 PM »
They travel through Lake PO and then down to the PO River. They come out of Dillion not sure the name of the river to Lake PO..
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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2015, 07:00:49 PM »
They travel through Lake PO and then down to the PO River. They come out of Dillion not sure the name of the river to Lake PO..


In 1970 they were illegally planted in the CDA system.  Northern Pike are only native to the Saskatchewan river drainage in MT, which is on the other side of the Rocky's.


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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2015, 07:07:55 PM »
Well KF if you remember there was one planted in your neck of the woods also. But my guess is the person who planted it is no longer around.

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Re: WDFW wants to stop the pike in Roosevelt. You can't make this stuff up.
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2015, 07:17:00 PM »
Well KF if you remember there was one planted in your neck of the woods also. But my guess is the person who planted it is no longer around.

I don't know that it was him, he used to be big into planting trout.  Him and you neighbor who's also no longer around came up with the bucket hatchery idea if you remember way back then. I guess that was way before your time  :chuckle:   I was around when they were making lot's and lot's of buckets to serve as small stream side trout fry hatchery's.   

Couldn't imagine a die hard trout guy going in for Pike on his lake, then again I think he hated the crappie and bass too.  Maybe  :dunno: 

 


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