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Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« on: December 29, 2015, 06:51:29 AM »


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How a Public/Private Partnership Skirted the Law and Destroyed a National Treasure and What We Must Do to Restore The Rule of Law and the Northern Yellowstone Elk Herd

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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 07:25:23 AM »
Wow, good read on how we got to where we are. 

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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 08:25:26 AM »
Wow! is all I can say,  I knew government and the eco-freaks were in bed together BUT this is just sick!!

I've seen what the screwy Spotted Owl and Salmon gave us,  but the wolf tops the list!!

Thanks all you educated past your intelligence liberals!! AND all you LIV'S!
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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 09:13:28 AM »
A close examination of the lawsuit revealed the reason law firms are so eager to donate their time, and why so many groups are lined up as plaintiffs. The judge grants the prevailing party costs and attorney’s fees, which amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the judge awarded them, “such further and additional relief” as he deemed just and proper. Environmental groups are being paid damages as well as attorney fees by the taxpayer when they prevail



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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 09:32:18 AM »
All I can say is WOW, What a read.


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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 09:47:52 AM »
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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 09:53:02 AM »
Madding.  :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 09:55:36 AM »
Great article.   
Not hard to believe.   I'm seeing it here,   In 5 years, oh heck, three, you can quote me and say, man you were a fool Bone.   I'm currently witnessing the destruction of the methow.    This years abundant success will just drive it in the hole faster.   Sorry, but it's happening here folks.   It's an epidemic. 
I love that even amongst our ranks on here, there are those that call themselves outdoorsman, yet they don't even recognize what is happening.   Keep trusting your department.   :rolleyes:

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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2015, 10:28:12 AM »
Wow

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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2015, 10:34:06 AM »
Great summation.

Horrible situation.

I'll admit that 20 years ago I was among those who trusted the pro-wolf groups to keep their word.    Time and time again, they've lied and gone back on their word.    I don't care what issue, you can't deal with people like that.

It's one more reason the SSS crowd is growing in numbers.   You simply can't trust
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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2015, 11:15:43 AM »
I used to see elk standing practically shoulder to shoulder all the way from south of the Devils Slide to Emigrant on both sides of the Paradise Valley.  That, my friends, is a lot of elk.  They are hard to find elk there at all now.  MY Grandfather lived his whole life in Livingston ad I spent a lot of time in that area.   

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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2015, 11:34:13 AM »
That article is right on the money and a good read. It kind of opens your eyes to what really is going on here. Another thought on this; the same animal rights and conservation groups (supposedly) that keep suing the government and the states when they de-list the wolf are actually doing it with our own money. It's grant money from the good ole USA. So the federal government is paying groups to sue the government. This whole government is a joke right now and it's not going to get any better until we get rid of special interest groups, lobbyists, and politicians that only have concern for their wallets!

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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2015, 11:44:01 AM »
I like the article......especially the last paragraph:
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Restoring the Northern Yellowstone Elk Herd
MTFWP is now taking public comment on changes to hunting regulations in HD 313. Their suggestions include shortening the season, or limiting bull elk permits to 75, and closing part of the unit. Deckard Flats is still a killing field for the now greater percentage of animals migrating out of Yellowstone National Park and yet, MTFWP’s quota for wolves in the unit is three. Reason and best available science requires man to step in and remove the large predators from the region. Long-range and night shooter teams could be camouflaged along the trail to take out wolves that are preying on the migrating elk. Collared wolves can be located and the entire pack taken out using aerial gunning. After the wolves are cleared out and once again safe for hunting dogs, send in the lion hunters. Bears, including the now over populated grizzly should be taken out of the unit as they emerge this spring. None of these large predator species are endangered, just protected by zealots at the expense of the local people, our way of life, and the animals we love. The Northern Yellowstone Elk Herd is endangered due to over predation by large carnivores. Remove the large carnivores and the herd will immediately begin to recover. Wolves taken in Montana should be tested for the thirty or so diseases of which they are vectors. If the wolves are infected with EG, mange, parvo, distemper, Moose Tania, etc., this experiment should be officially deemed a failure, and all of the wolves removed from the west.
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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2015, 11:57:13 AM »
You're all extremist wolf haters! Can't you see how the rivers have been helped by the wolves eating all the ungulates????  :bash: :bash: I can't wait to hear our moderates chime in about how it's all about balance.
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Re: Do You Realize Now What You Have Done?
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2015, 12:21:49 PM »
I can't argue with the history described in the article.  Not entirely on board with the last two sections, but that's ok.  One of the most damaging movements away from conservation toward special interest activism has been the awarding of "further and additional relief" to plaintiffs suing the feds under ESA and NEPA.  There are dozens of little niche groups (often little more than an attorney or two and a couple of activists) that very lucratively sue the federal government for profit and make very handsome incomes for themselves. 
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

 


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