Barnes bullets supporting lead ammunition bans!

[bearpaw]

Sorry, took me a while to get through all my old industry news briefs to verify what I had thought I remembered.  Wanted to be somewhat accurate before I posted a response in what had become a heated debate.

I get the impression that all this anger is over actions by the Brooks management and commissioned sales reps prior to 2010.  Is this correct? 

If so it is a moot point now as the Brooks family no longer owns the company.  They sold to The Freedom Group (ROC-Remington Outdoor Company) in 2010.  If your issue is with The Freedom Group you might need to add REMINGTON, BUSHMASTER, REMINGTON MILITARY, MARLIN FIREARMS, H&R 1871, DAKOTA ARMS, TAPCO, DPMS / Panther Arms, PARKER GUNMAKERS, ADVANCED ARMAMENT, PARA USA and MOUNTAIN KHAKIS to your list of companies you are going to boycott.  Same ownership - operations overseen by the same people.

So I think it is safe to say that if you do not have an objection to Remington Outdoors or a hatred toward their products we can call this issue a Non-Issue at this point in time.  But, if you do happen to have evidence that ROC, Inc. is actively trying to legislate lead core bullets out of the market place I would certainly love to here the details with links if possible.  I have no problem boycotting companies that are not our friends as sportsmen and stewards of our hunting traditions.  However, I am one that really needs to have undeniable facts that current ownership and/or management is actually doing what is rumored on the internet before I will support such action.

Your right, I think it was Daniel Lee Martin and Julie McQueen who told me that on our last hunt, I had forgotten, but yes, the same company who owns Remington and several other shooting sports companies now own Barnes.

[jasnt]

Make certain to use the Fed 215 primers w/the 300 Wby.  It is practically essential.

Regarding the TTSX, I will never purchase any Barnes product ever.  I used to run SPORTCO's hunting/shooting counter ~ 25 years ago and at that time Barnes was busy lobbying the legislatures and game departments of practically all western States to go "lead free."  I have nothing against a business trying to increase their market share by building a better product, but trying to legislate market share is despicable.     

exactly why I will never shoot Barnes. Never have never will!

[coachcw]

Fact is lead is bad for the environment , But they work so well ! Really if the Remington group that owns Barnes operates in a way that supports hunters rights along with gun enthusiasts I don't have a problem with someone or my self using them. There is so much that goe's on behind closed doors it would make our heads spin .  My bet is half of what we use would make us sick if we knew how it was made and who pushed it to the market.

[dscubame]

Crickets....

[Karl Blanchard]

RAD for president!!!!

[Killmore]

Radsav cant be president, He cant even draw a spring bear tag

[Magnum_Willys]

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[kentrek]

Perfect, some day I can test out the fast light and solid bullets ! 

[cboom]

Big surprise, JDHasty on another witchhunt  And as to be expected not a link or fact to back up any of his outlandish claims.

[Jonathan_S]

Big surprise, JDHasty on another witchhunt  And as to be expected not a link or fact to back up any of his outlandish claims.

To be fair he has outlined that this was experience and gave pretty solid indication to that.

He didn't start this topic, it was split from another thread

[Utah]

This is a total crap thread.  There's no way Barnes is supporting any kind of bullet ban. One bullet ban leads to another.. Nobody in their right mind gives up rights they have.  As that just leads to the next right being taken away.   Once it's gone?  Good luck getting it back. 

FWIW, every Barnes in every caliber I've ever loaded for shoot lights out.   Not finicky at all.  BTW, push'em as fast as you can! 

[JDHasty]

This thread split from another thread in which I simply stated why I do not consider them.  Barnes people did show up at a WDFW public forum and supported the case that lead was not necessary for any hunting application what so ever.

Perhaps in clinging to my vow I have limited my options, but I'm OK with that.  The company has changed hands, but when I said:  OK fine, you go your way and I will go mine I meant what I said. 

I have no opinion on the value of their product.  But when I make a statement that says never again, it mans never again and even though I might be better served by softening my stance I go to bed knowing that I have been true to myself.