Baiting Restrictions

[Rainier10]

Wow, that was a whirlwind of comments.

Everyone does have the right to their own opinion. Saying that people aren't real hunters by knocking how they hunt is a little over the top or saying that real hunters only hunt a certain way.

Whatever the case I think the point of this thread going back to the OP is that the limit is chipping away at a way of hunting and how long until it goes away completely.

I think the commission struggled with this one and did compromise.

I think Bigtex has the best comment on this subject when he said he doesn't think the commission will touch this subject again but the possibility of an initiative by the voting public to ban baiting is a very real possibility.

Did this limit by the commission open that door?  Only time will tell.

Just my 

[bearpaw]

You are right, did not mean to put all westsiders in one group. I just think everyone can and should be able to have there opinion heard, it doesnt mean im right or wrong just difference of opinions. And as far as saying you wont booked with wpo thats probably a good thing, because I only believe in fair chase hunts.  And bearpaw if you read all the thread, you would see I pack in many elderly and disabled hunters and working on a harness to make it easyer to help more get into the back country. Remember bear paw its just my opinon.

Not holding anything against you and you didn't break any forum rules. I took off my admin hat and put on my outfitter hat for a moment, that's all.
No Worries, I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion! 

[bknilvr00]

Read this thread through my lunch break...

[White Pass Outfitters]

I was not bashing anyone just put my 2 cents out there.
Still waiting on the comments on the two Native Americans who killed two bulls at the feed station while eating hay. Doesn't this classify as baiting. And the outcry from the public and other hunters was huge. Im not saying baiting is right or wrong, I just dont and wont do it.

[JDHasty]

Baiting for DEER AND ELK has only gave hunters a bad look for non hunters.
Any time I see a deer standing under a feeder and a hunter in a blind watching over that feeder it makes me cringe. Whoever thinks this is hunting you should look up the definition of FAIR CHASE HUNTING. I wont even watch hunting shows that hunt over feeders or food plots. This is not hunting but sitting on your ass waiting for the animals to enter the food plot. You might as well hunt your neighbors cows when the farmer feeds them!!! Im sure this will cause a lot of back lash, but dont really care.
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER !!!

Gee, all of the attitude in this post kinda reminds me of this guy's rhetoric:  http://blog.eastmans.com/up-a-creek-400-deep/ & http://www.gohunt.com/read/news/breaking-story-bull-elk-scam-DIY-backcountry-hunt-or-high-fence

Before Jeremy Lewis was outed he used to post screeds very similar to the one above on Monster Muleys and other sites.  I can't read your mind, but he way you said it sure didn't come across well. 

[ctwiggs1]

White Pass....

For the last several years, I've been investing more and more time and money into going "backwoods".  I have been working my tail off to get the absolute best experience possible during hunting season.  I'm a combat veteran who grew up hiking, fishing, and hunting.  To me, there is no place in the world more comfortable than the mountains.

That being said.... My wife is due with our second child in the middle of October.  This year, I was planning to not hunt at all.  I am a very family-centered person who does not miss family events (I had enough of that in the military).  My friend offered me an opportunity:  He get's elk all summer long on his property that usually stick around in September.  He has successfully placed small bait sections in areas in the past to facilitate easier shots for himself and his wife.  He told me that if I wanted to, I was more than welcome to take advantage of this to fill my freezer this year.

While your response to this may be that I am a terrible example of a hunter (Trust me, based on my kill %, I already knew that), I will tell you that at the end of the day, my freezer should be filled (ideally), I'll not miss too much time from the family, and it was a low enough cost that I'll still be able to pay the approximate $10,000 price tag to have a baby (that's after insurance).

I've long dreamed of using your guide service (I've looked at your website probably 100x) and Bearpaws (probably looked at his 1000x).  The region you hunt is the exact region that I LOVE to be in.  Last year my buddy and I were cruising around the southeast bowl of Mt Aix and I thought "man this would even more awesome if we could have horsed in. The travel time to get here cuts 2 days off the trip".  I would hope that you don't hold my current residence in Enumclaw against me, because I was born here and plan to stay here until the day I die unless God sends me somewhere else (Maybe Colville God??)

Curtis

[White Pass Outfitters]

Good reading and early congrats, I always tend to a fend people on this site, not intentionally might you know. But I am a fair chase hunter and truly believe in it. Do I care if other people are no. It just means less people where go. I have never hunted over bait and never intend to. On that note im not saying its wrong just saying its not for me. I do believe some of the hunting shows are hurting hunters more than doing good for them. And again this is just my opinion. And to all of you who dont like my saying thats fine its your right, but remember its just a saying. Its just a way to promote fair chase wilderness hunts. Good luck on your hunt, any time spent in the woods with family and friends will leave you will a whole lot of memories and stories for the grand kids. If you can get any days off or can get away look me up we run discounts for vets,handicap, women and children hunters.
Sorry if I a fended you in any way.
WPO   

[Rainier10]

 

[ctwiggs1]

No offense taken man.  I would much rather be out trompin in the mountains then sitting over bait, and I actually turn the channel when "those shows" are on.  I don't think it's exciting... I just see it as a means to an end.  It'll keep my kids from eating the garbage we call meat in America.

Curtis

[bearpaw]

Good reading and early congrats, I always tend to a fend people on this site, not intentionally might you know. But I am a fair chase hunter and truly believe in it. Do I care if other people are no. It just means less people where go. I have never hunted over bait and never intend to. On that note im not saying its wrong just saying its not for me. I do believe some of the hunting shows are hurting hunters more than doing good for them. And again this is just my opinion. And to all of you who dont like my saying thats fine its your right, but remember its just a saying. Its just a way to promote fair chase wilderness hunts. Good luck on your hunt, any time spent in the woods with family and friends will leave you will a whole lot of memories and stories for the grand kids. If you can get any days off or can get away look me up we run discounts for vets,handicap, women and children hunters.
Sorry if I a fended you in any way.
WPO   

I admit I took offense to your comments, both as a hunter and as an outfitter who employs many of the methods you claimed are not FAIR CHASE and so I'm not a REAL HUNTER, I had my outfitter hat on when I posted the questions and comments.

As an admin on this site I apologize for commenting. If you will remember I welcomed you to the site, you do offer a service that is valuable to many members who want to hunt in your area and I've only heard good things about your outfit. My only suggestion is that you be more careful with any comments that might offend other hunters.

[White Pass Outfitters]

And I do apologize to all the hunters that Ive a fended on this site.
I also get a little defensive when hunting the wilderness is compared to
sitting in a heated blind waiting for the automatic feeder to drop the corn.
But as hunters no matter How, Where or What we must all stick together, I
forgot that for a few minutes.Good luck on all your hunting adventures!!!
WPO

Don't let them separate and divide us,we are stronger as one!       

[KFhunter]

as hunters no matter How, Where or What we must all stick together Don't let them separate and divide us,we are stronger as one!   

I can get behind these words 

[JDHasty]

And I do apologize to all the hunters that Ive a fended on this site.
I also get a little defensive when hunting the wilderness is compared to
sitting in a heated blind waiting for the automatic feeder to drop the corn.
But as hunters no matter How, Where or What we must all stick together, I
forgot that for a few minutes.Good luck on all your hunting adventures!!!
WPO

Don't let them separate and divide us,we are stronger as one!     

I don't bait BT deer, but I know some guys that do.  I have kicked around the thought of creating a mineral lick, but just have never got around to it.  I know a few guys who go after big BTs and I would say that the guys who use bait are no more successful than the guys who still hunt them, and they are no more successful than the guys like me who set up stands and hunt over travel routes or over feeding locations.  They are no less successful either.  Some years we get a decent buck and some years we get nothing or a smaller buck.  It's hunting, nothing is guaranteed.  I know a guy who sets up all kinda' elaborate doe in heat setup and he has shot some really nice bucks, but he also goes three or four years in a row with a big fat goose egg. 

We all just hunt the way we prefer to. 

[buckfvr]

You want a nice whitetail over here, you better darn sure have more than baiting up your sleeve.........

[White Pass Outfitters]

Not much of a whitetail hunter but have got a few. Heres a couple from 2014