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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2016, 05:47:32 PM »
If it was a 100 percent closer across the board for EVERYONE, I don't think it would as big of a deal. But it wont be, and that is the issue....... Protect them by closing it down salt to spawn or open it up. Its an no brainer. All this cherry picking BS they do is a total waste of time. Get the nets out of the rivers.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2016, 06:09:35 PM »
If it was a 100 percent closer across the board for EVERYONE, I don't think it would as big of a deal. But it wont be, and that is the issue....... Protect them by closing it down salt to spawn or open it up. Its an no brainer. All this cherry picking BS they do is a total waste of time. Get the nets out of the rivers.
That's the problem. They want no impact on the weak wild runs by cancelling the mixed stock sport fisheries, but will still net the crap out of the runs going to hatcheries. Not saying the selective sport fishing doesn't have an impact, but come on- can't have it both ways.

Couple interesting links:
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/no-deal-at-north-of-falcon-salmon-season-in-uncharted-waters/

http://nwtreatytribes.org/treaty-tribes-propose-restricted-fisheries-face-historically-low-coho-year/
« Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 06:40:51 PM by Bullkllr »
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2016, 12:31:40 PM »
Salmon fishing as we have known it is over.  For good I fear.  The tribes will get their permits.  We'll have to drive to Canada.
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2016, 09:08:09 PM »
So what was the process for the Columbia R. to get the nets removed? Start on one river @ a time! The separate application may be a good thing the last ten yrs sporty's been losing % by leaps & bounds but tribes keep playing the blame game like we are over fishing   

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2016, 09:47:09 PM »
Maybe ask one of the really cool natives on here to explain it? :dunno: yea, good luck!
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2016, 09:30:11 AM »
 :yeah:  I've heard a few guys speculate it is kind of payback for not planting steelhead in the PS rivers the last couple years.  They said that the tribes figure the steelhead return this year will be low because of the lawsuits a few years back, so they plan to make up for it with extra salmon for a few years.   :dunno:

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2016, 09:32:41 AM »
Such bs it isn't even funny tribes in western wa area are so greedy they are destroying fish stocks.  There gill nets kill everything wilds and all. White man has to use barbless hooks and release wilds and we are the ones destroying the stocks give me a break. Look at lake wa sockeye they net before the fish ladder how hard would it be to net after the fish ladder so we could get a count of the run before the tribes decimate it.  There is no one who holds them accountable its kill as much as you can. Watching what these western wa tribes have to the fish in the sound over the past 15 year is crimal.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2016, 09:34:42 AM »
Last fall they shut down the whole Chehalis system to coho for sportsmen but the tribal nets stayed in.  Bottom line, the tribes get to rape our resources as much as they want with zero repercussions!

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2016, 09:36:50 AM »
Could a state law against the use of nets for catching fish be enforced against the tribes.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2016, 09:39:04 AM »
Not to mention the reason the coho numbers were low in the chealis was because the tribes netting the living piss out of it once a certain tribe joined the party. It's like a contest free for all who can get the most between the tribes.

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2016, 09:41:41 AM »
 :yeah:

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2016, 09:42:33 AM »
Bet there won't be any shortage of nets across the rivers though, on the coast and in the Sound.   :bash:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:. I know it wont ever happen fellas, but I really wish the natives and the wdfw would agree on both sides as well as commercial and shut all salmon and steelhead down for 5 years, keep planting, stocking and all that but shut all salmon and steelhead fishing of every kind down, then open it back up, if we did that and the commercial guys and natives regulated themselves better then the sport fisherman would actually have quality fishn again.. :twocents:
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2016, 09:55:33 AM »
Bet there won't be any shortage of nets across the rivers though, on the coast and in the Sound.   :bash:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:. I know it wont ever happen fellas, but I really wish the natives and the wdfw would agree on both sides as well as commercial and shut all salmon and steelhead down for 5 years, keep planting, stocking and all that but shut all salmon and steelhead fishing of every kind down, then open it back up, if we did that and the commercial guys and natives regulated themselves better then the sport fisherman would actually have quality fishn again.. :twocents:

It wouldn't makes sense for them to put a moratorium on salmon/steelhead fishing and continue to release hatchery fish. The intent of hatchery fish is to create a catch/kill fishery for sportees and netters alike. Without catching and killing these fish there would be too much danger that they would mix with native fish on the spawning beds and deplete the gene pool. In addition our licence dollars help fund hatchery programs. Without license sales during that period there would be no funding to sustain the hatchery programs. I agree it's a sad state of affairs we are faced with, wish I had the answers! :twocents:
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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2016, 10:02:06 AM »
But the state as well as tribes have been shutting down hatcheries due to costs.  The Squaxin's (one example) refuse to reopen the hatchery on Skookum Creek because (and this is a direct quote from the tribal council) "We are more interested in expanding the casino, golf course and tobacco facility."  They raise a few inferior coho in net pens off of Squaxin Island but many of those fish, once released never make it back or just mill around until they die. 

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Re: Anyone see this crap? PS salmon season this year.
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2016, 11:04:21 AM »
Seattle times article has a picture of an Indian throwing a spear to catch salmon. I love how they romantisize the tribes and there actions to the masses. Especially in the face of sportsman getting bend over.

 


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