AK vs AR (for a woods gun)

[AWS]

I always wonder about selections like this for a "Woods Gun".   Too powerful to use to harvest small game for the pot.  Not accurate enough to take head shots on small game.  Marginally powerful enough to use as a stopping rifle if something dangerous in the forest decided to eat or stomp you.  Buying a large capacity semi auto for woods work where most that have spent time in the woods know the first shot counts after that the rest are usually just noise.

Just curious what advantages there are to an AK pistol as a "Woods Gun" over a decent combination or drilling.  Now as a "Urban Defense Weapon" I can see it but myself would prefer a full stock or handgun for conceal-ability.

[Yondering]

Went to the gun shop yesterday.... Can't find an AK rifle for under 1000 in decent shape......

However, I decided I'm going to trade my AR in for an AK pistol with arm stabilizer brace, they had an AK pistol for 600$

For close up brush work, a small gun like that seems to fit my bill pretty well, seems to be my ideal take anywhere jeep gun by first impressions

So why not just do an AR pistol in that case, instead of the AK pistol? It'll be more accurate and have more capabilities for different uses, for about the same money.

[jeepster]

I used to carry a 44 mag.... Finally chucked it off a cliff cuz I had enough issues with it and didn't want to risk anything else, don't ask, it had to go.

Carrying a semi auto with a Hi cap mag deer hunting is ridiculous. But yet I am considering owning something for an "urban defence gun", truck gun, general purpose firearm to take into the woods year-round. Not a dedicated hunting tool, I have plenty of those. I have plenty of .22s too, so, that takes care of small game.

If I'm going grouse or rabbit hunting, I'll take the sxs 20ga with a .22 pistol

If I'm going deer/ bear/elk hunting, I'll grab the 35 Rem, 7mm mag or 300 Sav and a .22

I'll take a shotgun duck hunting

If I'm going camping, gold panning, fishing, off roading, or any other activity in the woods, I always take something. Just would be nice to BE ABLE to legally shoot a deer IF it presents itself.

More worried.about the creepy 2 legged critters than the furry four legged ones.

And honnestly, AR pistol just look dumb with a buffer tube protruding that far, I've concluded I don't like ARs as much as an AK, and you can drive an AK into the ground and it will work every time.

I believe in the practicality of.ownining calibers that more that kill paper targets and old soup cans (.223)

[Ddouble]

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[Ddouble]

$549 AK

[WoodlandShooter]

LaRue OBR and be done with it!!!

[Yondering]

And honnestly, AR pistol just look dumb with a buffer tube protruding that far,

Is the AK pistol with an arm brace any different there? Hint, you don't hold it like a pistol.

ARs are available in a lot more than just 223. Whatever floats your boat though; the AK pistol will get it done too.

[JimmyHoffa]

There are ARs that have the recoil spring above the bolt carrier group so you can eliminate the buffer tube.  There's another part to the BCG that compresses a spring on a guide rod.  That version has a taller profile compared to the standard AR.

[Duckslayer89]

Buy an AK while you still can!

[Yondering]

There are ARs that have the recoil spring above the bolt carrier group so you can eliminate the buffer tube.  There's another part to the BCG that compresses a spring on a guide rod.  That version has a taller profile compared to the standard AR.

Eliminating the buffer tube takes away most of the capability of an AR pistol though. They're pretty much worthless if you try to shoot them like a pistol; using at least a cheek weld on the buffer tube makes a huge difference.

[csaaphill]

Went to the gun shop yesterday.... Can't find an AK rifle for under 1000 in decent shape......

However, I decided I'm going to trade my AR in for an AK pistol with arm stabilizer brace, they had an AK pistol for 600$

For close up brush work, a small gun like that seems to fit my bill pretty well, seems to be my ideal take anywhere jeep gun by first impressions

cool Good luck 
Do you have a pic yet or have you bought it yet? But when you do Pics 

[Buzz2401]

I'd go Ak the 7.62x39 has more energy and is more reliable.  The difference in accuracy under 150 yards is not going to make a difference.  Those that say a 300BL is the same as a 7.62x39 must think a 308 win is the same as a 300 win mag.  The energy % difference is the same.

The 300blk uses a more efficient bullet. The 7.62x39 has more energy at the muzzle, but out at 100yds they are pretty well even. Plus the ammo selection for the blk is 100x better.

NEWS FLASH there both 30 caliber so you can use exact same bullet thus muzzle velocity will translate to downrange velocity.  300 BLK is great for what it was intended for, a sub sonic round.  As a hunting caliber it is sub par to most any other 30 caliber offering.

[MountainWalk]

I agree. To me the blackout is a cool, expensive waste of money.

[Alchase]

300 BLK is a very good sub-sonic round, especially for a CQB or urban home protection.
For reaching out past 200 yards, not so much.
From Hornady's Ballistic tables

[JimmyHoffa]

I'd go Ak the 7.62x39 has more energy and is more reliable.  The difference in accuracy under 150 yards is not going to make a difference.  Those that say a 300BL is the same as a 7.62x39 must think a 308 win is the same as a 300 win mag.  The energy % difference is the same.

The 300blk uses a more efficient bullet. The 7.62x39 has more energy at the muzzle, but out at 100yds they are pretty well even. Plus the ammo selection for the blk is 100x better.

NEWS FLASH there both 30 caliber so you can use exact same bullet thus muzzle velocity will translate to downrange velocity.  300 BLK is great for what it was intended for, a sub sonic round.  As a hunting caliber it is sub par to most any other 30 caliber offering.

I think the foreign 7.62s use .311 bullets and the domestic 7.62 is the .308 cal.  Only a tiny difference and both seem to shoot either version.  I've heard, that when reloading for say a Druganov you can use either but the .311s give the best results.  For the AK, I've not heard of chasing groups to really get any comparison of .308 vs .311 bullets--noticeably at least.