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Elevation Training Mask
« on: July 26, 2016, 11:32:47 AM »
Anyone use an elevation training mask to get ready for a high country hunt?  Did it help?  I went to Idaho to scout the area we will be elk hunting this fall and it kicked my butt.  My whole life has been spent within a couple hundred feet of sea level and the areas we were scouting ranged from 6k-9k and will likely be hunting around 7500.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 11:38:58 AM »
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Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2016, 11:43:38 AM »
I'd say train hard, get in shape and go a couple days early if possible. Then take it easy for the first day of your hunt. Thin air is one thing...a stupid Bane mask to restrict your airflow is another. I know a bunch of clowns who use them and I could wipe the floor with any of them anyday. It just a makes them feel like they are working harder.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2016, 11:53:28 AM »
I'll be honest, I'm by no means a marathon athlete but I haven't ever really experienced noticeable fatigue or breathing issues due to elevation. Except at the peak of Mt. Adams on day 2. Most of my Washington hunting peaks at 7,500'. As Jonathan said and in my opinion it's a fad gimmick. Just train!
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2016, 12:03:59 PM »
I know for me when I went from Seattle to basic training in Texas, schooling in Mississippi and then stationed at 6,000feet in Colorado, it kicked the crud out of me and I would have guessed that all the PT would have had me in shape.  I was a rock star at see level but living at 6,000 feet still took it out of me for the first two weeks until I adjusted.  All I did was go to work and then to bed.  When I came home on leave I was a super hero.

I could see where going from sea level all year to 7,500 feet for a week would be difficult to adjust to.  If you don't have easy access to train at that elevation maybe the mask would work.  I know it was suggested as a training tool when I trained to summit Rainier in 2010.  I did Tiger Mountain and Mt Si a few times a week for two months and still felt rummy at the summit of Rainier when I got there.

Maybe the thin air just affects me differently.  :dunno:
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2016, 12:19:15 PM »
I know for me when I went from Seattle to basic training in Texas, schooling in Mississippi and then stationed at 6,000feet in Colorado, it kicked the crud out of me and I would have guessed that all the PT would have had me in shape.  I was a rock star at see level but living at 6,000 feet still took it out of me for the first two weeks until I adjusted.  All I did was go to work and then to bed.  When I came home on leave I was a super hero.

I could see where going from sea level all year to 7,500 feet for a week would be difficult to adjust to.  If you don't have easy access to train at that elevation maybe the mask would work.  I know it was suggested as a training tool when I trained to summit Rainier in 2010.  I did Tiger Mountain and Mt Si a few times a week for two months and still felt rummy at the summit of Rainier when I got there.
Maybe the thin air just affects me differently.  :dunno:

I ordered one, ill let you know if it helps.  I figure for $80 it cant possibly hurt.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2016, 12:22:08 PM »
I'll be honest, I'm by no means a marathon athlete

You could say that a time or two more. :chuckle:
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2016, 12:29:21 PM »
Rainier, I am not doubting the effects of elevation and thin air. I completely agree with you and have experienced it too. What I am doubting is the mask and what it replicates.  :tup:

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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2016, 12:31:21 PM »
Rainier, I am not doubting the effects of elevation and thin air. I completely agree with you and have experienced it too. What I am doubting is the mask and what it replicates.  :tup:



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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2016, 12:32:37 PM »
I'll be honest, I'm by no means a marathon athlete

You could say that a time or two more. :chuckle:

 :chuckle:  shots fired! I would call myself more of a office to portajohn athlete if I had to classify it.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2016, 12:34:48 PM »
Rainier, I am not doubting the effects of elevation and thin air. I completely agree with you and have experienced it too. What I am doubting is the mask and what it replicates.  :tup:
:tup: Training is better than the mask.  That's what I would think also and I am curious to see what thefisherman has to say after he tries the mask.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2016, 12:35:46 PM »
Rainier, I am not doubting the effects of elevation and thin air. I completely agree with you and have experienced it too. What I am doubting is the mask and what it replicates.  :tup:



What I heard was that you were the toughest dude on earth, but carry on. :tup:


You definitely heard wrong!

I think if the masks helped muscles and lungs for performance, we'd see them in professional sports. Sure, there is equipment available but it comes in the form of bottled thin air and $10,000 setups
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2016, 12:39:07 PM »
Altitude sickness affects everyone differently. I was at just under 10k' on Mt Adams at the lunch counter and felt like crap the day we got there. Lost my appetite, felt sort of weak, etc. The next morning I felt almost back to normal, mostly fine. I ate like a horse and made the summit without issue.
I suspect that if you give yourself a day or 2 to acclimate, you'll be alright. 7500' is high, but it's not "that" high relative to what a lot of folks do at 10-12k'.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2016, 12:46:14 PM »
Altitude sickness affects everyone differently. I was at just under 10k' on Mt Adams at the lunch counter and felt like crap the day we got there. Lost my appetite, felt sort of weak, etc. The next morning I felt almost back to normal, mostly fine. I ate like a horse and made the summit without issue.
I suspect that if you give yourself a day or 2 to acclimate, you'll be alright. 7500' is high, but it's not "that" high relative to what a lot of folks do at 10-12k'.


That is true. Talked to a guy at lunch counter that didn't try to summit due to what he claimed as altitude sickness. Lunch counter 9,200' I think...

As far as the mask goes, I'm a tight wad so if I wanted to try restricted flow training I'd probably just climb badger a few times with a sponge stuffed in my mouth.
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Re: Elevation Training Mask
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2016, 12:55:03 PM »
Take it for what it's worth, but I do Adams as a long day hike, and hunt above 12k in colorado.   Only time I've experienced altitude sickness was when I was out of shape and fairly dehydrated from a 21hr drive to CO.  Strong muscles and lungs is gonna help more than anything.  When I go back to colorado every fall, it does take a solid day to 2 days to acclimate to the elevation.  I don't seem to feel it till that 9k mark.  Really whoops a guy :chuckle:
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