What would you do when an outfitter completely doesn't follow his word??UPDATE

[kellama2001]

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[hoof rot]

My partner and i booked with him this year for archery, my lung collapsed and i had 2 surgeries 45 days prior to our departure date, I explained everything to wpo he was way cool about it, and wrote us receipts for paid in full for the same hunt in 2017, i still have faith in him he has been totally cool to this point, only thing is were he was taking us up one side the long ways instead of the short ways to the other side, who knows though. Just get me in elk country and I'll do the rest. Ps. I got a 5x5 this year so still a good year.

[hoof rot]

I say give him a chance to explain, this is his busiest time, I know from experience that sometimes an outfitter has no extra time during season and he probably needs a chance to find out from his employees what happened and then have time to deal with it. I know too many hunters who have made good reports about White Pass to think that this was planned and intentional, give him a chance before you crucify him.   i agree

[millerwheeler]

My partner and i booked with him this year for archery, my lung collapsed and i had 2 surgeries 45 days prior to our departure date, I explained everything to wpo he was way cool about it, and wrote us receipts for paid in full for the same hunt in 2017, i still have faith in him he has been totally cool to this point, only thing is were he was taking us up one side the long ways instead of the short ways to the other side, who knows though. Just get me in elk country and I'll do the rest. Ps. I got a 5x5 this year so still a good year.

Im.not saying he isn't a great guy , maybe he  over booked  I don't know I just want this fixed we all look forward to our elk hunts every year  this wasn't it I just want it resolved I maybe slightly impatient I know it's busy time but I always find time to communicate even with kids, events , work , and  my customers

[Taco280AI]

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

I have nothing invested in this, but thought this statement (in bold) was funny. You going three days on no sleep setting up camps and packing people in is YOUR problem, NOT HIS. Are you complaining about doing your job? Is this possibly why the OP was dropped off where he wasn't expecting? Being overbooked and not wanting to, or not having the time to place them where they expected to be placed?

And one thing I have an issue with, why are you attacking the customer on a personal level? Stick to the facts. Debate the issues. Don't go after the person. Bad business practice no matter what the circumstance and it will likely turn away potential future customers. 

[sagerat]

I agree 100%. You might think about checking in with your boss before saying anymore.

[money794]

I said that because he isn't gonna be on his phone 24/7  out of all the other hunters only one complainer .

[JDHasty]

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

I have nothing invested in this, but thought this statement (in bold) was funny. You going three days on no sleep setting up camps and packing people in is YOUR problem, NOT HIS. Are you complaining about doing your job? Is this possibly why the OP was dropped off where he wasn't expecting? Being overbooked and not wanting to, or not having the time to place them where they expected to be placed?

And one thing I have an issue with, why are you attacking the customer on a personal level? Stick to the facts. Debate the issues. Don't go after the person. Bad business practice no matter what the circumstance and it will likely turn away potential future customers. 

Thank God you quoted this quote and thereby saved it before it disappeared.  I was going to do it if you didn't.

Two observations: 

1)  The OP didn't even want to name the outfitter, and did not until multiple people asked.
2)  Whenever someone does not communicate there is reason to be concerned.   

[millerwheeler]

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

I have nothing invested in this, but thought this statement (in bold) was funny. You going three days on no sleep setting up camps and packing people in is YOUR problem, NOT HIS. Are you complaining about doing your job? Is this possibly why the OP was dropped off where he wasn't expecting? Being overbooked and not wanting to, or not having the time to place them where they expected to be placed?

And one thing I have an issue with, why are you attacking the customer on a personal level? Stick to the facts. Debate the issues. Don't go after the person. Bad business practice no matter what the circumstance and it will likely turn away potential future customers. 

Well money794 was said and repeated and if 6to 8hours wasn't possible as there may have been other camps there why wouldn't you  divide the distance and not just put it in the first step of the wilderness....?? 2nd off I'm far familiar with very long work days and  no sleep. Which could be  the problem of why this all got jumbled up, next I put many many many miles down the fact of the matter is what was promised and said were not done , hunting is hunting there are no guarantees everyone knows that and that's what makes hunting so amazing . I think there is no reason to call me names  but I got tough skin so say all you want , your word is your bond and at the end of the day that's all you have. Have a great day

[millerwheeler]

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

I have nothing invested in this, but thought this statement (in bold) was funny. You going three days on no sleep setting up camps and packing people in is YOUR problem, NOT HIS. Are you complaining about doing your job? Is this possibly why the OP was dropped off where he wasn't expecting? Being overbooked and not wanting to, or not having the time to place them where they expected to be placed?

And one thing I have an issue with, why are you attacking the customer on a personal level? Stick to the facts. Debate the issues. Don't go after the person. Bad business practice no matter what the circumstance and it will likely turn away potential future customers. 

Thank God you quoted this quote and thereby saved it before it disappeared.  I was going to do it if you didn't.

Two observations: 

1)  The OP didn't even want to name the outfitter, and did not until multiple people asked.
2)  Whenever someone does not communicate there is reason to be concerned.   

I don't want to ruin the guy I just want some understanding and to reach an agreeable outcome to all this I have tried communicating as my dad  has called and so have I my dad is so busy I figured I'd take the  rains I can be impatient  but I think it's fair to expect  a fair response  time and or resolution to the problem I don't think that's wrong  appreciate  everyone's input I don't want to crucify him again I urge that , I know he just got his forest service  permit for drop camps and don't want that ruined for him I  just want it worked out like any other customer would at any business

[Karl Blanchard]

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[millerwheeler]

I said that because he isn't gonna be on his phone 24/7  out of all the other hunters only one complainer .

There is a big difference between complaining and satisfying a deal man , a deal.ia a deal it's very cut and dry

[Bob33]

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

If you are a representative of WPO, you just dId more harm to their reputation than the OP.

[Ice Cap]

 

I was at the show and I can assure you that 6-8 hour trip was not
Said . That trip can be from 2-4 hours depending on where your tent is  out of all the hunters your the only one complaining Specially on social media . All the other hunters had a great time. If your crying about your camp not being in the middle of an elk herd and is scared to walk a few miles a day to hunt than wilderness hunts aren't for you . Sorry there's no roads up there for you to sit in your truck and drive around looking for animals . Try goin 3  days with no
 Sleep setting up camps and packing people in .

If you are a representative of WPO, you just dId more harm to their reputation than the OP.

 

[money794]

Nope I just know him and there's always 2 sides to a story so have a good day everyone . I have better things to do than sit on my phone complaining on social media