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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #180 on: November 30, 2016, 10:58:37 AM »
I can see this thread has lost any prospect of productivity. I guess it started out that way, so...  :dunno:
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #181 on: November 30, 2016, 11:04:00 AM »
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Apply pressure to the state legislature to make our laws as good as the Native's in terms of seasons, bag limits etc.. Does no good to whine about it online.

You've got to be kidding. So you think we should pressure the state to give us a year around season with absolutely no limit to how many deer or elk each person can kill per year?

And as to the whining about it online, it actually does do some good, because it's due to all the "whining" over the last several years on this site that I've been made aware of how bad the problem really is.

Many of the Yakama tribal members kill trophy size deer and elk for no reason other than to sell the heads. And again, they can kill as many as they want, and there is no season. If we all could do that, there would be no deer or elk left in the state.

Nope not kidding. That is the remedy whether anyone chooses to pursue it or not. By the way please shoot us some links about this alleged shooting of trophies just to sell the heads. I am seriously interested to look into that, but as your comment stands now its just an anecdote. Anecdotes are pretty useless when you are trying to make a factual point.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #182 on: November 30, 2016, 11:11:49 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #183 on: November 30, 2016, 11:21:35 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
Can I ask why?
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #184 on: November 30, 2016, 11:26:35 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
Can I ask why?

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #185 on: November 30, 2016, 11:28:54 AM »
I'd be willing to bet that if people stopped buying capes and heads from the tribal hunters, the harvest of the big bulls and bucks would decrease.  Enablers enabling....
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #186 on: November 30, 2016, 11:29:20 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
Can I ask why?
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I remember the push a couple of years back to gather evidence of abuse and overharvest.  I think it went behind the scenes but I never heard what happened.  Is that what you are talking about?
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #187 on: November 30, 2016, 11:32:25 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
Can I ask why?
:yeah:
I remember the push a couple of years back to gather evidence of abuse and overharvest.  I think it went behind the scenes but I never heard what happened.  Is that what you are talking about?

He's talking about Aaron Blanchard.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #188 on: November 30, 2016, 11:35:57 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
Can I ask why?
:yeah:
I remember the push a couple of years back to gather evidence of abuse and overharvest.  I think it went behind the scenes but I never heard what happened.  Is that what you are talking about?

He's talking about Aaron Blanchard.
I was thinking that may have been it, RIP.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #189 on: November 30, 2016, 11:40:26 AM »
One man had been on to something and he was putting an effort forward. He's concept was sound and was scientifically based. Putting that concept into play would've provided information worth it's weight in gold.

Sadly, it will probably never happen.
Yeah he died.  I lost all my information he shared outside huntwa 2 computers ago.  The man had some potentially workable ideas, but it was his ability to present those ideas that cannot be duplicated.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #190 on: November 30, 2016, 11:43:21 AM »
Saw an elk head for sale on face by a tribal member just last night.  700 bucks.  Should be illegal. I agree. If it was though, would it be enforceable with him being tribal?

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #191 on: November 30, 2016, 11:51:11 AM »
I'd be willing to bet that if people stopped buying capes and heads from the tribal hunters, the harvest of the big bulls and bucks would decrease.  Enablers enabling....
Doubt it

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #192 on: November 30, 2016, 12:08:21 PM »
I'd be willing to bet that if people stopped buying capes and heads from the tribal hunters, the harvest of the big bulls and bucks would decrease.  Enablers enabling....
Doubt it

That's not the issue. Most I know don't sell heads or capes. Not saying a very few don't but majority don't.
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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #193 on: November 30, 2016, 12:12:14 PM »
I'd be willing to bet that if people stopped buying capes and heads from the tribal hunters, the harvest of the big bulls and bucks would decrease.  Enablers enabling....
Doubt it

That's not the issue. Most I know don't sell heads or capes. Not saying a very few don't but majority don't.

It definitely happens. Don't know how often, or maybe it's 1 or a couple guys or whatever...but it definitely happens. The point is, even if it's only 1 guy that shoots multiple  bulls and sells the antlers, it's a BS reason and it shouldn't be happening in the first place.

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Re: 28 Desert Unit bucks taken by Yakima Indian Nation rumor or truth?
« Reply #194 on: November 30, 2016, 12:16:16 PM »


Let's put this in another perspective.

China invades the U.S., reduces our army to dust. All the survivors sign treaties to live on abysmal lands so that they won't get reduced to dust. You are forced to learn Mandarin, no longer speak English and abide by Buddhist or Taoist religions. You can't wear your traditional clothing either. You are given a few bones though, you can hunt and fish.

Fast forward 150 years, you are now 0.9% of the population. The New China Republic as been trying to take away the bones it has given again and again but there has been enough resistance from the original colonists and sympathizers in the New Republic that you barely have a grasp of what was once the livelihood of your ancestors. One of the few things that you have left to your identity is one of the bones that was given to your people generations ago.

After 150 years most of your ancestors would be chinese. Much like many tribal members today who have more European blood than anything else.


 


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