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Training a chocolate
« on: February 03, 2017, 09:37:15 AM »
I have a 2 year old Chocolate Lab that I would like to start training to be a gun dog.  Any pointers that I can get from the experts here would be great.  I was thinking that when I start feeding him that Id try and come up behind him and clap as hard as I can and see what he does.  And after a few times after that I'd get a cap gun and fire that off in the house to see how he would react.  But after that I am a little lost, as Ive never trained a gun dog before.  I have read that the "Stay" and "Heel" commands are a hunters best friends.  Again any tips would be more than welcome.  Thanks!

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 09:40:42 AM »
@ 2yo you're a little behind. How is he at basic obedience? That's the place to start, you'll learn each other first. Is he ball crazy? Is he expected to follow rules? Etc?
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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 10:14:23 AM »
I don't like the "stay command". The dog should learn sit and stay sitting until released. You just cut two commands ( sit, stay) into one command. Agree two years is behind, but you  can still get a hunting buddy out of your dog.

I've been lucky enough that all of my labs have had the natural search desire when they here a gunshot. I have not dealt with gun shy yet.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2017, 11:56:04 AM »
I know that I maybe a little behind, but when I got him I thought he was just going to be a family dog.  He was a little rough on his toys.  But when he's introduced to new things, he has a very sorry pallet.  So there's some instinct in there that he needs to be gentile with things.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2017, 11:59:45 AM »
You have a .22 pistol?

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2017, 12:04:29 PM »
No I don't.  I was thinking that a cap gun would be a nice start to get him used to the loud noise before I took him out and let him watch a gun shoot.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2017, 12:32:18 PM »
No I don't.  I was thinking that a cap gun would be a nice start to get him used to the loud noise before I took him out and let him watch a gun shoot.

I would buy a .22 blank dummy launcher.  That way when he hears a pop, there is something associated with it.  Start with just a dummy and get the retrieve, then use the launcher.  He might give one weird look at first but then he'll remember his job is to retrieve.  If you have a partner then the cap gun would be fine but a lot of the training I did was one on one, less distractions.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2017, 02:09:09 PM »
I wouldn't worry about intro to gun yet at all. Treat the dog like a puppy and start from the very beginning. You don't want a loud noise to be associated with food anyways. You want a gunshot to mean dead bird then a retrieve not meal time.

Bill hillman puppy video is worth every cent. You'd probably work through it pretty fast but at the end you'd have a 2 year old who is steady and loves to retrieve and gets how the game works. At that point you've got 90 percent of the hunting dogs I see surpassed in their training.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 06:03:16 PM »
I would steer clear of the 22 cal. Had a great gun dog that would hunt under a 12 gauge all day but dig a hole through concrete to get away from a 22. Tons of simple ways to get a dog introduced to a shotgun. As has been stated,find a method you can follow and start as if the dog was a new pup. It will be fine...Enjoy and good luck

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2017, 03:52:26 PM »
Firecracker and a frozen bird. Have your dog sit and light that fire cracker and throw the bird.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 04:19:07 PM »
Make sure the noise is associated with retrieving and fun. Start with the bang 100 yards away then progressively bring it closer. Dont rush the gun introduction step especially with a 2 year old.

But like has been said make sure all other obedience and basics have been taught.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2017, 05:32:42 PM »
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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2017, 06:55:17 PM »
FORGET ABOUT ALL NOISE RELATED TRAINING!!!!   

Work on obedience training, retrieving and tracking. Work on those building blocks.

PERIOD

The noise related stuff can happen later, slowly, especially when the dog is having fun retrieving.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2017, 08:02:04 PM »
I just took my 4month old lab to the range today.We stayed in the car and Started way back and moved
closer and closer all while keeping her interested in a toy. finally started rolling the window down.
She could have cared less about the boom booms. We spent an hour doing it.

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Re: Training a chocolate
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2017, 10:52:42 PM »
Always good to associate a shooting range is just like hunting ducks. Or, firecrackers and food is like hunting or, banging pots and pans when you eat is like hunting ducks. All that makes them real good hunting dogs..
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