Old vehicles vs newer vehicles

[Happy Gilmore]

Reality strikes....the newer rigs on solid axles are 100x better than the old ones. They just suck ass on style points. You can hammer the piss and drive 300k on a new toyota Tacoma. You are lucky to get 120k on an old FJ if you drive it.

HappyG,  what new Toy has solid front axles, there isn't one sold here in the US.

Also the FJ and previous gen Tacoma ran almost the same drive train and chassis?  FJ and 4skinner are same.

What are you calling old FJ?  40, 60, 62, or 80 (fzj)?

Has Toy figured out the rusting frame issue yet?

BTW,

Auto spell and alcohol issue... 😊 

[Happy Gilmore]

You are lucky to get 120k on an old FJ if you drive it.

That's 12 valve adjustments.

That's on the assumption you haven't already dumped the motor for an old junker Buick swap. Lol

[Happy Gilmore]

This will be my next truck. There are some Aussie tuners who rip these up. Cool YouTube videos of these blowing coal.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAzht1vZDw

[Happy Gilmore]

Here is the one I was looking for... I love this thing and it sounds bad ass... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-ItQlYhcFk

[thinkingman]

But the newer Toy is a gutless wonder

I drove my buddies 2016 to the airport to pick up my fiancee. I thought it felt a lot slower than my old 2007. I thought maybe I'd just forgotten what the 2007 was like. Did they reduce the power in the new ones?

Toyota decided to replace the 4.0L V6 with the 3.5L from the Avalon. 
Car engine.
The 4.0 has more torque and a flatter torque curve.
The 3.5 is quieter and smoother.
Similar numbers, totally different feel.
Toyota buyers don't care.

[timberfaller]

Old rigs  92 jeep  and a 02 F150

Tune up on jeep approx $100 or less,  can do it myself.    Valve cover gasket replace, $4o can do myself.

Tune up on 02 Ford,  just got a quote(plugs/coils/labor), $950.  Had to have both valve cover gaskets done 2 years ago, $750 dealership did the job.

Pretty obvious which is better!!   "Education" is NOT always a good thing!!  Someone had to "design" these flaws!!!!!

I seen on YouTube where there is one Ford rig you have to remove/lift the Whole BODY off to replace a intake gasket issue!!

[b23]

But the newer Toy is a gutless wonder

I drove my buddies 2016 to the airport to pick up my fiancee. I thought it felt a lot slower than my old 2007. I thought maybe I'd just forgotten what the 2007 was like. Did they reduce the power in the new ones?

Toyota decided to replace the 4.0L V6 with the 3.5L from the Avalon. 
Car engine.
The 4.0 has more torque and a flatter torque curve.
The 3.5 is quieter and smoother.
Similar numbers, totally different feel.
Toyota buyers don't care.

My 13 Tacoma with 4.0L was just ehh ok on power so I put a TRD Supercharger on it shortly after I had about 3000 miles on the odometer.  BIG difference in power and still does the same on MPG as long as you drive it normal.  Haven't driven one of the new ones with the 3.5L but was told they feel pretty soft on power.

Old vs New, for me, it would depend on the vehicle.  I'm always looking for a real clean 96 Bronco but haven't found that just right one yet.

[Shank]

I have an old '76 CJ7, I would much rather crusie that around then a newer Jeep. Way more character. As far as duriblity goes on my ole Jeep, when I was wheeling it all the time,  the ole girl out lasted, out performed, and flat out never let me down, as opposed  to all the "newer" rigs I was with, they all where in the 90's and up
In regards to new vs. old. Everyday driver, I'd prefer newer, they just don't have any character. My hunting/camping rig is an 02...Is that old or new?
I currently have a crazy idea of building an old flat fender pickup, newer technology, I.e fuel injection...So that would be the best of both worlds right

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[bigjohn98591]

I prefer the classic iron for style. New cars are more reliable, but more difficult to work on. My dream ride would be a mid 80's chevy square body 4x4 with a newer 5.3 LS motor in it. I have an 86 K5 Blazer that I love to drive, this is the direction that I would like to go with it someday.

[DOUBLELUNG]

My first vehicles were 1967, 1984 and 1985.  I could work on them with a few basic tools, and I needed to work on them multiple times every year.  They seem to have a lot more character than the newer stuff.  My 4th was a 1990 GMC pickup, somewhere between the 85 and the 90 the electronics and specialized tools and diagnostic machines took over.  My first NEW vehicle, a 1997 Ram 1500 ext cab, went 12 years without a repair, at 148k miles the fuel pump went out and was a semi-pricey repair.  I had to sell it shortly after as my son outgrew the ext bench seat - it is still that guy's every day driver and he raves about it.  My current vehicle I bought new, a 2009 Ram 1500 crew - did not have the reliability luck of the 97, but all the kinks worked out under warranty in the first couple years and it has been repair-free for 7 years now.  It is also more comfortable than my wife's Caddy SRX.

I plan to keep the new, reliable, boring comfortable vehicle, but for nostalgia I may very well buy another 1985 F150 with manual lockout hubs, a 300/6, 4.10 rear and 3 speed manual with a granny gear.

[Claymore15]

Doublelung I happen to have that exact truck, my brother bought it brand new, and he sold it to me when I Retired out of the Army in 2004, only has 129,000 on it.  great truck

[fish vacuum]

somewhere between the 85 and the 90 the electronics and specialized tools and diagnostic machines took over.

86 gmc pickups got real ugly under the hood. A real mess of wiring and vacuum hoses.
 

I may very well buy another 1985 F150 with manual lockout hubs, a 300/6, 4.10 rear and 3 speed manual with a granny gear.

If I was buying a non-toyota, a Ford with the big 6 would be something I'd consider. It would fit my truck needs fine for towing a small boat and hauling firewood.

[Special T]

80s f150 in line 6 with 1 TON axles is what I would have if I didn't already own work trucks, and a commuter car like a Subaru wagon or a Honda.

I'm really hoping the ELIO 3 wheeler commuter car comes out in the next year or 2. It would make it a lot easier to own and upgrade an older wheeler 4x4 for most people. 85mpg commuting and then who cares what the milage is for a weekend rig.

[DOUBLELUNG]

Doublelung I happen to have that exact truck, my brother bought it brand new, and he sold it to me when I Retired out of the Army in 2004, only has 129,000 on it.  great truck

For sale ? 

[DOUBLELUNG]

Doublelung I happen to have that exact truck, my brother bought it brand new, and he sold it to me when I Retired out of the Army in 2004, only has 129,000 on it.  great truck

Two of my favorite things about that truck - it would roll up cliffs in 4 low granny gear, AND it would stay in the ruts and roll slow enough I could get out, run ahead, open a cattle gate, let the truck roll through, close the gate, and still be able to get back in and drive!