POLL: 2nd Amendment Gun Rights for Non-Violent Felons?

[jordanramos_79]

I too agree that rights should be able to be restored. I also believe that some crimes need to be reclassified. For instance, right now in WA someone convicted of Vehicular Assault or Homicide would be considered a violent offender and would not be capable of having their rights restored. I know that driving drunk is awful and there should be severe penalties for such but I don't think it should require the loss of 2nd amendment rights.

[bigtex]

Every State should follow Washington State's lead.

You mean the liberal lead? Because that's why WA's laws are why they are...Liberals

[bigtex]

Personally, I'm a solid YES, 2nd Amendment rights should be returned for non-violent, non-gun related felonies.  I have a major problem with taking away someone's 2nd Amendment rights for life for something like writing a hot check for $200 bucks (felony theft by check) or something stupid like putting a fake registration/inspection tag on their vehicle or boat to save a few bucks (felony fraud).

Actually the two crimes you listed are not felonies in WA.

[bishop311]

Every State should follow Washington State's lead.

You mean the liberal lead? Because that's why WA's laws are why they are...Liberals

No, that's not what I meant, but thanks.  What I meant is that every State should follow WA's lead in allowing a system through their courts to allow individuals to seek relief for the restoration of firearm rights.

[bigtex]

Every State should follow Washington State's lead.

You mean the liberal lead? Because that's why WA's laws are why they are...Liberals

No, that's not what I meant, but thanks.  What I meant is that every State should follow WA's lead in allowing a system through their courts to allow individuals to seek relief for the restoration of firearm rights.

And that occurs in WA because of liberals...

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[bishop311]

Personally, I'm a solid YES, 2nd Amendment rights should be returned for non-violent, non-gun related felonies.  I have a major problem with taking away someone's 2nd Amendment rights for life for something like writing a hot check for $200 bucks (felony theft by check) or something stupid like putting a fake registration/inspection tag on their vehicle or boat to save a few bucks (felony fraud).

Actually the two crimes you listed are not felonies in WA.

My point of reference is from Texas, as I'm a Texan recently moved to Washington, but don't lose sight of the forest for the trees.  Any felony where (A) no one was harmed and no violence was used, and (B) no firearm was used at all, should not result in (C) the permanent loss of 2nd Amendment rights.  It is illogical.
 Are you going to assert an opinion or an argument for or against the subject of discussion here instead of arguing what is or isn't a felony offense in X versus Y State when those were largely hypothetical points to begin with?

[Bofire]

http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.047  first passed in 1994, who was in office then? Liberal or Conservative.??
Carl

[bishop311]

Every State should follow Washington State's lead.

You mean the liberal lead? Because that's why WA's laws are why they are...Liberals

No, that's not what I meant, but thanks.  What I meant is that every State should follow WA's lead in allowing a system through their courts to allow individuals to seek relief for the restoration of firearm rights.

And that occurs in WA because of liberals...

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So why does Washington (a largely Blue/Liberal State) allow for the restoration of firearm rights while Texas (an overwhelmingly Red/Conservative State) does not?

[bishop311]

http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.047  first passed in 1994, who was in office then? Liberal or Conservative.??
Carl

I truly don't know who was in office in WA then.  I hope you can help me to understand who was?  I mean this was a State law, right?  Not federal.  I'm still new to WA so help me out here...

[NW SURVEYOR]

Texas is the busom of pro life, gun toting conservatism.
Except when you get on the wrong side of the law.
Then you have a bunch of Draconian Justice.
This gives you a Governor like that *censored* that has now finageled his way to Secretary of Energy.
Hell, that Stupid SOB wouldn't be elected dog catcher anywhere else.
This is why we pass dumb laws, because we have dumb polititions.
The Donald will fix it as soon as he is re-election.
Yeah, right.
Rob.

[SCRUBS]

People that can't be trusted with possession of firearms should remain in
prison forever. Taking away a person's right to possess firearms does not prevent them from continuing to committ crimes with the use of a firearm. All it does is prevent them from participating in legal activities such as hunting. In my opinion once a felon has served his time and is deemed not a danger, and is released from prison they should have all the same rights as every other US citizen.

[bishop311]

That's actually a helpful answer Jimmy. Thanks man.

[bigtex]

http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.047  first passed in 1994, who was in office then? Liberal or Conservative.??
Carl

I truly don't know who was in office in WA then.  I hope you can help me to understand who was?  I mean this was a State law, right?  Not federal.  I'm still new to WA so help me out here...

Mike Lowry, a Democrat who happened to die earlier today.

In fact the bill was requested by Lowry and other Democrats as part of the Violence Reduction Program bill which had very little Republican support.

[bigtex]

Every State should follow Washington State's lead.

You mean the liberal lead? Because that's why WA's laws are why they are...Liberals

No, that's not what I meant, but thanks.  What I meant is that every State should follow WA's lead in allowing a system through their courts to allow individuals to seek relief for the restoration of firearm rights.

And that occurs in WA because of liberals...

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So why does Washington (a largely Blue/Liberal State) allow for the restoration of firearm rights while Texas (an overwhelmingly Red/Conservative State) does not?

I think it's pretty simple, conservative states hammer criminals. Police have more power in conservative states, crimes and penalties are stiffer in conservative states. There's a reason why you don't want to get caught committing a crime in conservative states. Want to commit a crime? Move to a liberal state.

In WA every year the legislature turns some crimes into infractions (tickets) just like how California made serious property crimes misdemeanors instead of felonies. Yet now the property crime rate in CA is skyrocketing.

[JimmyHoffa]

Texas also has a much stricter concealed carry policy and I don't think they allow open carry of handguns; which is weird because it gets a gun friendly rating...but Washington is generally better for gun owners (except Class 3).  (for now anyways).