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Yardage estimation
« on: September 05, 2017, 06:53:59 AM »
This is more a question of personal opinion. If you have to make a split decision and guess the yardage do you err to the side of short or long in the heat of the moment? Reason I ask is I changed to a single pin adjustable sight and hope I can range any shot but wondering if I can't range and have to eyeball it, if I would rather miss high or low.
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2017, 07:35:55 AM »
Both times I have done this I guessed long and shot over. If I had to say which I would rather miss (high or low) I would choose high as it would be less likely to
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And, missing high allows a better chance of visually tracking the arrow and confirming a miss. IMO
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2017, 07:44:04 AM »
Both times I have done this I guessed long and shot over. If I had to say which I would rather miss (high or low) I would choose high as it would be less likely to
Leave an arrow sticking in the leg joint of an animal and feel like a prick all year. :twocents:


And, missing high allows a better chance of visually tracking the arrow and confirming a miss. IMO

I agree. I use the golf analogy that you will NEVER make a putt left short but at least getting it there gives it a chance. I also like to randomly try to visually range something then check with my rangefinder. I generally am a few yards under so I think I would err on the high side.
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 09:33:28 AM »
What do you leave your pin at? To me this is a function of how what is your snap limitation, and at say 25 yards how far off are you at 5-10 yards?  Really fast bows arnt off by all that much close in, and the farther away the animal the more need for accuracy and time you should have to make a good shot.

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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 09:39:34 AM »
What do you leave your pin at? To me this is a function of how what is your snap limitation, and at say 25 yards how far off are you at 5-10 yards?  Really fast bows arnt off by all that much close in, and the farther away the animal the more need for accuracy and time you should have to make a good shot.

There is no substitute for practice! The best drill out there if you dont shoot a walk through course often is take a piece of para cord40 yards long. Tie a colored ribbon in the middle and end a different color in between. Walk around a park or wood lot with it attached to you and look behind you every 20 yards or so. While this doesn't account for the angle up or down it does give you a really good idea what the yardage is. 2c

I like that and I leave my pin set at 30, or at least that is my plan. I feel like anything under 30 I can drill with my 30 pin.
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 09:46:16 AM »
I always try to error high.  A low shot will spook the animal away.  A high shot often doesn't spook the animal and in some cases if it does spook them they move away from the noise and closer to you.

I have missed low twice both times spooking the animal out of the county.  I have also missed high twice. Once spooking the animal closer and once they didn't move at all.  When they didn't move at all I adjusted my shot and drilled it.  On the closer encounter a bush was in the way of getting a second shot even though the deer was closer.
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 10:02:01 AM »
What do you leave your pin at? To me this is a function of how what is your snap limitation, and at say 25 yards how far off are you at 5-10 yards?  Really fast bows arnt off by all that much close in, and the farther away the animal the more need for accuracy and time you should have to make a good shot.

There is no substitute for practice! The best drill out there if you dont shoot a walk through course often is take a piece of para cord40 yards long. Tie a colored ribbon in the middle and end a different color in between. Walk around a park or wood lot with it attached to you and look behind you every 20 yards or so. While this doesn't account for the angle up or down it does give you a really good idea what the yardage is. 2c

I like that and I leave my pin set at 30, or at least that is my plan. I feel like anything under 30 I can drill with my 30 pin.


What you need to do is use your 30 pin on a target at 20 yards and 40 yards, or groups of them, and measure how far off you are so you know what yardage bracket you must stay in.   Very similar concept in sighting in your 30 06 to 225 yards because then your within 2"out to 300 yards.

I would bet that unless you have a fast bow, new, and longer than avg draw lengthy you would want the pin at 25 and then you get and easy 5 yards either side. 2c
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2017, 10:29:17 AM »
It has never been a conscious plan to err low, but i have never missed high.

I do have two second shot kills after shooting between the legs on the first.  The arrows still struck on the opposite side and had them looking away long enough for a knock and draw.

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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2017, 10:30:33 AM »
What do you leave your pin at? To me this is a function of how what is your snap limitation, and at say 25 yards how far off are you at 5-10 yards?  Really fast bows arnt off by all that much close in, and the farther away the animal the more need for accuracy and time you should have to make a good shot.

There is no substitute for practice! The best drill out there if you dont shoot a walk through course often is take a piece of para cord40 yards long. Tie a colored ribbon in the middle and end a different color in between. Walk around a park or wood lot with it attached to you and look behind you every 20 yards or so. While this doesn't account for the angle up or down it does give you a really good idea what the yardage is. 2c

I like that and I leave my pin set at 30, or at least that is my plan. I feel like anything under 30 I can drill with my 30 pin.
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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2017, 10:57:02 AM »
I also shoot a single pin adjustable sight, I set it at 30 yards and practiced enough with it to know where to aim at 20 and 40 yards which has worked very good for me, the bow I shoot is not considered super fast but it seems a few inches up or down and it hits very true!

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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 12:42:56 PM »
So, what do you guys think of this system?

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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 01:17:00 PM »
What do you leave your pin at? To me this is a function of how what is your snap limitation, and at say 25 yards how far off are you at 5-10 yards?  Really fast bows arnt off by all that much close in, and the farther away the animal the more need for accuracy and time you should have to make a good shot.

There is no substitute for practice! The best drill out there if you dont shoot a walk through course often is take a piece of para cord40 yards long. Tie a colored ribbon in the middle and end a different color in between. Walk around a park or wood lot with it attached to you and look behind you every 20 yards or so. While this doesn't account for the angle up or down it does give you a really good idea what the yardage is. 2c

I like that and I leave my pin set at 30, or at least that is my plan. I feel like anything under 30 I can drill with my 30 pin.
I learned archery with the slider pin and I loved the thing, we were doing a lot of 3D shoots and everyone I talked to said it was best to keep it set at 30 yards out hunting. I couldn't get on it quick enough outside of stagnant targets though so I gave in sadly and got a spot hogg for hunting. I want to build a target bow just for my slider though but yea anyway my point was 30 yards seems to be the magic number for single pin  :tup:

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Re: Yardage estimation
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 02:35:26 PM »
I'm sure there's other websites, but if you go on burienbark.com , they have a yardage calculator. And I would always error on the higher side when using them, like almost adding a yard.
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