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Gotta do some predator calling this winter! That and chasing down trax in the snow!Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
Have you considered a working dog like a Great Pyrenees or similar? I am sorry for your loss.
My mother in law has several dairy goats and has 2 miniature donkeys running full time with them a mile from a spot I had 5 different lions on camera in 1 year. No predator losses to date to her goats. The goats and donkeys have free range of her 12 acres. She was told a donkey will stop a lion attack. I know a guy near me who has quality, trained livestock guardian dogs and lots of llamas and alpacas and he has had repetitive lion issues over the last few years. I imagine the dogs have probably stopped some predation, but lions have killed his animals multiple times over the last few years.
Quote from: jackelope on October 24, 2017, 10:43:24 AMMy mother in law has several dairy goats and has 2 miniature donkeys running full time with them a mile from a spot I had 5 different lions on camera in 1 year. No predator losses to date to her goats. The goats and donkeys have free range of her 12 acres. She was told a donkey will stop a lion attack. I know a guy near me who has quality, trained livestock guardian dogs and lots of llamas and alpacas and he has had repetitive lion issues over the last few years. I imagine the dogs have probably stopped some predation, but lions have killed his animals multiple times over the last few years. Yeah, I forgot to mention a donkey/burro. Some mules are hell on predators but that's because of the donkey side of them and you don't need something that large. Do they still have those blm burro adoption programs. Maybe you can snatch up one of those . We have a cowboy friend that used to have a burro. He would use him for training purposes for horses that thought they were in charge. That burro would stock a horse 3 times his size and sometimes try and bite the belly out of them , they can be nasty creatures.
Quote from: jackelope on October 24, 2017, 10:43:24 AMMy mother in law has several dairy goats and has 2 miniature donkeys running full time with them a mile from a spot I had 5 different lions on camera in 1 year. No predator losses to date to her goats. The goats and donkeys have free range of her 12 acres. She was told a donkey will stop a lion attack. I know a guy near me who has quality, trained livestock guardian dogs and lots of llamas and alpacas and he has had repetitive lion issues over the last few years. I imagine the dogs have probably stopped some predation, but lions have killed his animals multiple times over the last few years.Very interesting. I will have to look into the donkey thing. I would not be against getting one and trying that. I know they are great at protecting from coyotes. Why not lions. I also like the idea of having it always around living with the sheep and not roaming around separately like a dog.
Quote from: Southpole on October 24, 2017, 11:14:09 AMQuote from: jackelope on October 24, 2017, 10:43:24 AMMy mother in law has several dairy goats and has 2 miniature donkeys running full time with them a mile from a spot I had 5 different lions on camera in 1 year. No predator losses to date to her goats. The goats and donkeys have free range of her 12 acres. She was told a donkey will stop a lion attack. I know a guy near me who has quality, trained livestock guardian dogs and lots of llamas and alpacas and he has had repetitive lion issues over the last few years. I imagine the dogs have probably stopped some predation, but lions have killed his animals multiple times over the last few years. Yeah, I forgot to mention a donkey/burro. Some mules are hell on predators but that's because of the donkey side of them and you don't need something that large. Do they still have those blm burro adoption programs. Maybe you can snatch up one of those . We have a cowboy friend that used to have a burro. He would use him for training purposes for horses that thought they were in charge. That burro would stock a horse 3 times his size and sometimes try and bite the belly out of them , they can be nasty creatures. All these mini donkeys do is run around kicking and biting each other non-stop. They're father and son.
Don't get mules for livestock protection. They are just as likely to kill your sheep and goats. I would not recommend a mini donkey for protection from a lion. It will flat out kill it. You want at least a standard donkey. If it's a Jack, make dang sure it is fixed. Better if you get one that has been raised around sheep and goats. Be very careful around lambing and kidding time. Lots of times a newborn running around crying chasing after mom has been mistaken for a predator. Since it is new the donkey protects the mom.
Quote from: Machias on October 24, 2017, 11:34:32 AMDon't get mules for livestock protection. They are just as likely to kill your sheep and goats. I would not recommend a mini donkey for protection from a lion. It will flat out kill it. You want at least a standard donkey. If it's a Jack, make dang sure it is fixed. Better if you get one that has been raised around sheep and goats. Be very careful around lambing and kidding time. Lots of times a newborn running around crying chasing after mom has been mistaken for a predator. Since it is new the donkey protects the mom. The ones she has are 3’ ish at the withers. Got to be 350+ pounds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ok, didn't need to see that!! In all seriousness, a intact Jack is a VERY dangerous animal!!!!
Did you confirm it was a single lion that did the killing? Just the killing and not feeding makes me lean towards a pair or two of juveniles. I would be interested to hear what others think. Especially @wacoyotehunter @bearpaw and @machias who have run hounds and seen a lot of lions.
The downside of a donkey is that they can be NOISY! The one I had was a mammoth jack and even tho I didn't have many neighbors, and they weren't that close to me......They noticed.
Quote from: Gringo31 on October 25, 2017, 10:56:41 AMThe downside of a donkey is that they can be NOISY! The one I had was a mammoth jack and even tho I didn't have many neighbors, and they weren't that close to me......They noticed.One of my favorite sounds!!! Loved it every time I would walk outside my Jack would say Hi.
Did you confirm it was a single lion that did the killing? Just the killing and not feeding makes me lean towards a pair or two of juveniles. I would be interested to hear what others think. Especially @WAcoyotehunter @bearpaw and @Machias who have run hounds and seen a lot of lions.
Quote from: tlbradford on October 24, 2017, 04:47:39 PMDid you confirm it was a single lion that did the killing? Just the killing and not feeding makes me lean towards a pair or two of juveniles. I would be interested to hear what others think. Especially @WAcoyotehunter @bearpaw and @Machias who have run hounds and seen a lot of lions.It's not at all unusual for 1 lion to kill multiple sheep or goats. It's like turning a house cat loose on a family of mice, they can't stop, they will likely kill every mouse they see, same with sheep and goats and lions.