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I imagine the Green Decoy sports groups are going wild, they see Obama's land grab legacy being unraveled.
Quote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:36:45 PMI imagine the Green Decoy sports groups are going wild, they see Obama's land grab legacy being unraveled. His land grab legacy? You mean the one where one Clinton monument and one Obama monument have been turned into now 5 monuments by Trump? Hunting was allowed before and after monument status, the only thing that stopped was oil/mineral excavation in areas where it hadn't already began before they were monuments.Love it when people say actions are "land grabs" when the land is already managed by the feds in the first place. Did the feds grab land from the feds?
I spend a lot of time in Utah, many of the people there called it a land grab, just like what it was! There certainly are people who live in other states readily willing to tell Utah what is best for them.
Bearpaw:Zinke wants a new 130,000 acre monument in Montana. Is that going to be a "land grab"?http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/dec/06/zinke-defends-monument-reductions-supports-badger-/
I would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Quote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:36:45 PMI would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.
Most people I know in Utah are extremely happy with Trump!
Quote from: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 01:24:31 PMQuote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:36:45 PMI would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please!
Quote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:24:57 PMMost people I know in Utah are extremely happy with Trump!Well I'd hope so, it's a Republican state. That's like saying the majority of the populace in California are anti-Trump. Duh
It's obvious you guys are going to criticize Zinke no matter if he reduces or creates monuments, that tells me this is little more than political badgering regarding Zinke! You criticize the guy no matter what he wants to do!
Quote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:29:47 PMQuote from: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 01:24:31 PMQuote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:36:45 PMI would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please! There is a difference between maliciously racist and racially insensitive. The rep from HI was not Japanese. She is a 4th generation American. There is no conceivable reason to greet her that way. He might as well have asked her if she needed chopsticks when her Caesar salad showed up at lunch.
Quote from: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 01:35:29 PMQuote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:29:47 PMQuote from: magnanimous_j on March 16, 2018, 01:24:31 PMQuote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 12:36:45 PMI would imagine Zinke was trying to be friendly and courteous.Why would he intentionally act racist in testimony in congress? You guys must be that sharp!Perhaps his attempt to be courteous was misguided, but I seriously doubt he was being racist! Reality check please! There is a difference between maliciously racist and racially insensitive. The rep from HI was not Japanese. She is a 4th generation American. There is no conceivable reason to greet her that way. He might as well have asked her if she needed chopsticks when her Caesar salad showed up at lunch. That was a good one. I really don't understand his comment either, but again, why would he intentionally be racist or intentionally show disrespect in congress? Has anyone asked him why he said that?
Quote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:24:57 PMIt's obvious you guys are going to criticize Zinke no matter if he reduces or creates monuments, that tells me this is little more than political badgering regarding Zinke! You criticize the guy no matter what he wants to do! Actually I've supported some of his decisions, but I have no problem calling him out at time. I'm not someone who sees that all Republicans can do no evil and Dems can only do evil, they can both do evil.My big thing is I don't see him as a "god" that he likes to portray himself as, and as some on here think he is. That for some reason he is here to protect everyone's hunting and fishing rights everywhere and so on. In reality, he hasn't done much. There isn't a single thing WA hunters can say he's done to improve our hunting/fishing, and in reality, he cant do much. He has no authority over states issues, he cant say what happens with the Forest Service.His supporters like to say he got rid of the Obama lead "ban" for refuges, when in reality it wasn't a ban at all as it was a policy statement that refuges should move towards being lead free, shocking thing is most refuges were lead free before Obama took office, and this reg is still in place.In WA he's basically limited to National Parks and Wildlife Refuge issues. He oversees BLM but BLM is such a minor player in WA as they have less than 500,000 acres.
Quote from: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 01:39:53 PMQuote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 01:24:57 PMIt's obvious you guys are going to criticize Zinke no matter if he reduces or creates monuments, that tells me this is little more than political badgering regarding Zinke! You criticize the guy no matter what he wants to do! Actually I've supported some of his decisions, but I have no problem calling him out at time. I'm not someone who sees that all Republicans can do no evil and Dems can only do evil, they can both do evil.My big thing is I don't see him as a "god" that he likes to portray himself as, and as some on here think he is. That for some reason he is here to protect everyone's hunting and fishing rights everywhere and so on. In reality, he hasn't done much. There isn't a single thing WA hunters can say he's done to improve our hunting/fishing, and in reality, he cant do much. He has no authority over states issues, he cant say what happens with the Forest Service.His supporters like to say he got rid of the Obama lead "ban" for refuges, when in reality it wasn't a ban at all as it was a policy statement that refuges should move towards being lead free, shocking thing is most refuges were lead free before Obama took office, and this reg is still in place.In WA he's basically limited to National Parks and Wildlife Refuge issues. He oversees BLM but BLM is such a minor player in WA as they have less than 500,000 acres.By your comments I'm not sure if you think I have a statue of him in my house or not! Seriously I doubt Washington is high on Zinke or Trump's list, this state has done nothing but try to trash the Trump administration, am I wrong? I'll be happy if Zinke and Trump make improvements in other states and do whatever they can to erase Obama's missteps. Trump has only done one thing that I seriously disagreed with, he talked about raising the age of gun purchasing to 21. I did what I figured was the most effective action, I sent twitter messages and facebook messages directly to Trump's accounts and sent a letter to his fundraising organization that I would not donate again if Trump violated the 2nd Amendment. I'm sure my messages alone made no difference, I'm also sure others did the same thing, it was only a few days and Trump changed his stance on weapons. Probably should thank the NRA!So, I'm very happy with Trump's actions thus far. When he missteps I will do my part to join others in letting him know, I'll do the same with Zinke and hope it helps!
He failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)
Quote from: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 02:42:55 PMHe failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.html
I spend a lot of time in Utah, many of the people there called it a land grab
Quote from: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 02:50:01 PMQuote from: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 02:42:55 PMHe failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.htmlIt's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years.
Quote from: bearpaw on March 16, 2018, 04:08:50 PMQuote from: olyguy79 on March 16, 2018, 02:50:01 PMQuote from: bigtex on March 16, 2018, 02:42:55 PMHe failed to mention that every administration opens new refuges, (and in some cases every year)True that!Obama Admin opens 26 refuges to new/expanded hunting/fishing in 2013: https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/683.htmlIt's good that he did something I can agree with during those 8 long years. He got bin Laden.
Rep. Colleen Hanabusa, D-Hawaii, a fourth-generation American of Japanese ancestry, asked Zinke in a hearing whether he would continue a National Park Service grant program that funds research and preserves confinement sites where the government incarcerated as many as 120,000 people of Japanese descent. She said both of her grandfathers were internees.
His land grab legacy? You mean the one where one Clinton monument and one Obama monument have been turned into now 5 monuments by Trump? Hunting was allowed before and after monument status, the only thing that stopped was oil/mineral excavation in areas where it hadn't already began before they were monuments.Love it when people say actions are "land grabs" when the land is already managed by the feds in the first place. Did the feds grab land from the feds?
Zinke has very little to do wit the State of Washington, and the little that requires his attention doesn't get done.The Parks Department has received ZERO direction from Zinke since his appointment.Meetings that have been scheduled and require his attendance have been blown off so he can go ride his horse.The guy's a joke, just like his boss.Also, I have a question for Bearpaw, did the Monument status per Clinton/Obama for the lands in Utah affect your guiding operation?I wonder if there is a restriction on professional guiding within theses areas which would ban you capitalizing on this area.It may be that the Government grants an exclusive franchise or similar contract to limited the impact on the area.This is the case in most Parks and may be the reason certain user groups oppose this status.With your boys Zinke/Trump changing the status, maybe you can guide and make a few bucks (Which seems reasonable).On the other hand, if an individual hoping for solitude and along comes some outfitter with a 30 horse string to set up camp nest to you, not so fun.This is not intended as an attack on Bearpaw or the guiding profession, I went with an outfitter in Montana last November and had a good time.It's just that often times there are losers and winners in legislation, and each side feels strongly about the effects.As for Mr. Zinkes' Japanese, he should maybe take lessons and speak appropriately, I wouldn't consider addressing an important political and/or social guest in a language that is 3 generations removed from that individual. The guy's and idiot and should stick to what he knows, which is certainly not Japanese. Mr. Zinke, just do the job that you were hired to do unless that job is to ruin this Country with your ignorance, which could be the case looking at the staff that Trump has hired to go through his revolving doors. I hope that we all get what we want, but that's highly unlikely.Anybody have a 7mm Mauser for sale?Thanks for reading,Rob.
You liberals are seriously the BIGGEST SISSIES IN THE WORLD !! The stuff that offends your sensitive sensibilities is insane!! It seriously blows my mind what a bunch of babies you are!! Is it hard to feel like a man at times??
Quote from: jackmaster on March 17, 2018, 10:25:06 PMYou liberals are seriously the BIGGEST SISSIES IN THE WORLD !! The stuff that offends your sensitive sensibilities is insane!! It seriously blows my mind what a bunch of babies you are!! Is it hard to feel like a man at times??You shouldn't be surprised Jack, look at What the libs supported as a presidential candidate! The libs will leap out of their skins at any chance to nock the anti globalism Trump admin, while ignoring the stench of killery and the corrupt DNC. This last little stitch is the perfect example.If we support each other America will be great again. America is finally a net producer of energy, what that means is that we are no longer held hostage by OPEC, we are no longer dependent on them and no longer lining their pockets with a steady stream of USD out of this country. In order to be a wealthy country we must manufacture and produce more, like we used to do a few decades ago, we must eliminate the trade deficit and reduce the flow of money continually leaving this country. Trump is reversing the globalist/liberal imbalance that has been created to suck the wealth from America and take away it's economic strength.People really need to ween them self off the liberal kool-aid put out by the MSM which is owned and controlled by globalists who don't like what Trump is doing. The MSM spins everything to be anti-Trump no matter what he does, while they continue to give D's like Hillary who broke the law many times a free pass. MSM seriously impacts some peoples judgement. No personal attack meant, I'm just offering a little different view than what the MSM continually manipulates Americans with to impact their thought patterns.Best Regards,Dale