Make wastage laws apply to cougar

[Elkcollector82]

Big plate of trichinosis. No thanks. I’ll pack the hide and skull out with a smile on my face though. Eating cats and dogs. I’ll leave that for 3rd world countries.

And yet eating bear and pork seems to be acceptable to most. Psychologically I have a problem with bear so I understand it.
Funny how our brain works sometimes. I've killed bear and no way could I eat them until it was turned into sausage. Then no problem.

Yes I will say it’s a mental thing. But I only eat bear in sausage form. Pork it’s either bacon or sausage. Nothing else. I have tried cougar. It was fine. Just couldn’t break the mental barrier I guess.

[Oh Mah]

I think it boils down , that bear meat,cougar meet,and carnivorous,animal can give ya trichinosis,I can't seem to think that wdfw can enforce you to eat something that may make you get sick.

Like i said 3 times in this thread so far,We don't need any rule changes or new laws.Now onto this post,yes bears and cats can get you trichinosis.............So CAN deer,elk,moose and ALL other meat not properly cooked.

[bobcat]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

[520backyard]

Animal rights groups are constantly telling everyone cougar meat is never used to demonize cougar hunting. let's take this talking point away from them.

No matter what the laws are until it is illegal to hunt they will not be satisfied regardless, that is their overall agenda and ultimate goal.

[Humptulips]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

I can't see how you could make that case. Law seems pretty clear it applies to game birds, game fish, food fish, shell fish and big game other then cougar.
None of that applies to coyotes.

[bobcat]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

I can't see how you could make that case. Law seems pretty clear it applies to game birds, game fish, food fish, shell fish and big game other then cougar.
None of that applies to coyotes.

I agree, I'm just saying that's what bigtex said, and he's supposed to be the expert.

[Blacktail Sniper]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

I can't see how you could make that case. Law seems pretty clear it applies to game birds, game fish, food fish, shell fish and big game other then cougar.
None of that applies to coyotes.

I agree, I'm just saying that's what bigtex said, and he's supposed to be the expert.

I believe it falls under the infraction for wastage vs the criminal charge of allowing an animal to be wasted:

[Bob33]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

I can't see how you could make that case. Law seems pretty clear it applies to game birds, game fish, food fish, shell fish and big game other then cougar.
None of that applies to coyotes.

I agree, I'm just saying that's what bigtex said, and he's supposed to be the expert.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186633.msg2468725.html#msg2468725

"As of the summer of 2014 you can no longer be charged for letting a coyote lay."
 

[Blacktail Sniper]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

I can't see how you could make that case. Law seems pretty clear it applies to game birds, game fish, food fish, shell fish and big game other then cougar.
None of that applies to coyotes.

I agree, I'm just saying that's what bigtex said, and he's supposed to be the expert.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186633.msg2468725.html#msg2468725

"As of the summer of 2014 you can no longer be charged for letting a coyote lay."
 

Serious question: Are you really sure? 

That thread apperars to be talking about the gross misdemeanor as defined in the RCW 77.15.170. 

The RCW 77.15.160 (pictured below) which details out infractions indicates differently, and is noted to be effective as of 1/1/2018?

[Oh Mah]

The thing that's different is coyotes here are not classified at all.This brings up not classified as big game but seems to be saying that wasting of other classified wildlife would be waste.  If Bigtex said it could be then this is another rcw that needs cleared up because laws should not be open to the LEO's discretion.They need to be clear and to the point. 

[Blacktail Sniper]

The thing that's different is coyotes here are not classified at all.This brings up not classified as big game but seems to be saying that wasting of other classified wildlife would be waste.  If Bigtex said it could be then this is another rcw that needs cleared up because laws should not be open to the LEO's discretion.They need to be clear and to the point. 

Coyotes are still considered wildlife in Washington, so I believe you are mis-reading and adding classified wildlife where it is not currently in the listed infraction.

Washington legal definitions link below and a screen shot of the section defining wildlife:

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010

Not to say that I see a flood of tickets being written concerning coyotes, but it does appear that an infraction could still be written if wanted to...

[Bob33]

If it were a law, they couldn't enforce it anyway. Like bigtex has said in the past, it's actually illegal to waste coyotes. (His interpretation of the law, not mine) If I remember correctly, he said to be in compliance with the law, just bring the coyotes home, and throw them in your garbage can.

I can't see how you could make that case. Law seems pretty clear it applies to game birds, game fish, food fish, shell fish and big game other then cougar.
None of that applies to coyotes.

I agree, I'm just saying that's what bigtex said, and he's supposed to be the expert.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186633.msg2468725.html#msg2468725

"As of the summer of 2014 you can no longer be charged for letting a coyote lay."
 

Serious question: Are you really sure? 

That thread apperars to be talking about the gross misdemeanor as defined in the RCW 77.15.170. 

The RCW 77.15.160 (pictured below) which details out infractions indicates differently, and is noted to be effective as of 1/1/2018?

I quoted Bigtex, who said it is legal to let a coyote lie, which corrects a previous post which implied he said it was not legal.

[Blacktail Sniper]

I understand that.

It is also talking about the criminal charge, says nothing I seen addressing an infraction...two different classes of violation.

And that was from back in 2014 as stated and the list of infractions covering wasted wildlife indicates it is in effect as of 1/1/2018.

Hence my question of being sure of no potential penalty currently...

[Oh Mah]

 

[hunter399]

Big plate of trichinosis. No thanks. I’ll pack the hide and skull out with a smile on my face though. Eating cats and dogs. I’ll leave that for 3rd world countries.

I agree with this all the way,cats may eat fresh meat most of the year.But I'm sure there is some winter months they will eat anything.