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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2018, 02:21:41 PM »
They certainly have their hands tied but I would argue they don’t seem to struggle against those restraints much. 

I would like to see a clear attitude they are there to fight for the animals and hunters.  When they at least turn in that direction I would gladly pay more. 

The circus at Shillapoo is something I see where they have latitude and come down against the hands that feed them, over and over.


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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2018, 02:38:38 PM »
They certainly have their hands tied but I would argue they don’t seem to struggle against those restraints much. 

I would like to see a clear attitude they are there to fight for the animals and hunters.  When they at least turn in that direction I would gladly pay more. 

The circus at Shillapoo is something I see where they have latitude and come down against the hands that feed them, over and over.


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I have said the same thing for years. If I at least got the feeling that they were on our side and were truly trying, my feelings would be different. I know they are in a really tough spot that I wouldn't want to attempt but at the same time, I see nothing that leads me to believe their priorities are towards their paying customers.

Side note but thought it was interesting. I was in Montana this weekend scouting for elk and hear an ad on the radio that Montana fish and wildlife is putting on a weekend shindig for ladies who are either looking to get into outdoor activities or for them to improve their knowledge. They were going to have workshops, activities and all that. My first thought was "well that's pretty darn cool. Washington would never do something like that"
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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2018, 03:54:33 PM »
Side note but thought it was interesting. I was in Montana this weekend scouting for elk and hear an ad on the radio that Montana fish and wildlife is putting on a weekend shindig for ladies who are either looking to get into outdoor activities or for them to improve their knowledge. They were going to have workshops, activities and all that. My first thought was "well that's pretty darn cool. Washington would never do something like that"
Actually WA has had a similar event for many years.

Here's this year's press release: https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/jun1918a/

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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2018, 03:59:04 PM »
This is part of the governors Edict. The department thinks they may be able to squeeze some funds for.

Un like pikeminnow bounties, Adding a separate bag limit for Mergansers has no operational cost. It does have a time and political cost, but considering how Wa, OR, and  CA have protected salmon runs and such isn't it a win win?
And the merganser bag limit would take years to get as it would have to also be approved by the feds. It's not a simple petition to the WDFW Commission like other non-federally managed species.

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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2018, 04:00:49 PM »
They flat out lied when they talked about the reasons to close naches hatchery and requiring  $2.3 million in capitol to maintain and operate they listed $1.8 million to fix a supposive chronic water issue which is not the case  the facilty is fully operational and $500 K for raceways infrastructure rebuild the raceways and whole facility was built in 1990 and is in immaculate shape  my question is what game are we playing here and why says alot about wdfw management if there willing to lie directly in the face of their supporters what else are they lying about

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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2018, 04:14:15 PM »
Side note but thought it was interesting. I was in Montana this weekend scouting for elk and hear an ad on the radio that Montana fish and wildlife is putting on a weekend shindig for ladies who are either looking to get into outdoor activities or for them to improve their knowledge. They were going to have workshops, activities and all that. My first thought was "well that's pretty darn cool. Washington would never do something like that"
Actually WA has had a similar event for many years.

Here's this year's press release: https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/jun1918a/

Interesting. Guess I just never heard it advertised. Thanks Tex
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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2018, 04:51:01 PM »
This is part of the governors Edict. The department thinks they may be able to squeeze some funds for.

Un like pikeminnow bounties, Adding a separate bag limit for Mergansers has no operational cost. It does have a time and political cost, but considering how Wa, OR, and  CA have protected salmon runs and such isn't it a win win?
And the merganser bag limit would take years to get as it would have to also be approved by the feds. It's not a simple petition to the WDFW Commission like other non-federally managed species.
Didn't say it was easy, but it doesn't appear that they have done any work to try. Perhaps  it's time to give it a try since the feds at least appear to be interest in trying new things.... we are talking about trying to help endangered and ESA listed species.

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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2018, 07:05:51 PM »
This is part of the governors Edict. The department thinks they may be able to squeeze some funds for.

Un like pikeminnow bounties, Adding a separate bag limit for Mergansers has no operational cost. It does have a time and political cost, but considering how Wa, OR, and  CA have protected salmon runs and such isn't it a win win?
And the merganser bag limit would take years to get as it would have to also be approved by the feds. It's not a simple petition to the WDFW Commission like other non-federally managed species.
Didn't say it was easy, but it doesn't appear that they have done any work to try. Perhaps  it's time to give it a try since the feds at least appear to be interest in trying new things.... we are talking about trying to help endangered and ESA listed species.

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Yep, If you could see they were trying it would sure improve their image, at least on here.
In my experience it takes years of trying to get a simple change. Year after year I pester them about stuff and they say yea, will get that done and next year you start from scratch all over again.
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Re: WDFW funding webinar tonight
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2018, 09:07:52 PM »
This is part of the governors Edict. The department thinks they may be able to squeeze some funds for.

Un like pikeminnow bounties, Adding a separate bag limit for Mergansers has no operational cost. It does have a time and political cost, but considering how Wa, OR, and  CA have protected salmon runs and such isn't it a win win?
And the merganser bag limit would take years to get as it would have to also be approved by the feds. It's not a simple petition to the WDFW Commission like other non-federally managed species.
I hate to lay this at your feet Big Tex, so others chime in if you have the knowlege.

Why is there no separate bag limit when all other other flyaways do? Has changing it to a separate limit been attempted? If so by whom?

I get it, it's a big deal. However salmon in some way shape or form have been ESA listed or endangered for a long time. If it is a multi year process when is the time to start? Sounds like today to me. 2c



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