my overall assumption of this hunt , I believe my brother will end up holding his tag . the overall age class in the unit is way down . we saw a fair amount of deer and the buck to doe ratio looked to be 3 or 4 to 1. good looking young deer . From what i see too many tags have been given out to call this a quality hunt . waiting ten plus years to draw this tag is a bit of a let down . After talking with Bill yesterday we both agreed to let a buck grow rather than notch . we saw two or three bucks that would have been decent over the counter deer. I was really surprised how many people where out hiking into the middle of the unit getting ready for duck season . We had fun and once I left for work my brother was very limited where he would be able to shoot one due to two very bad shoulders. I'm sure theres a few studs around , with the preserves and private , the issue is getting to them and legally harvesting . A buck pretty much has to be a ghost to make it five or six years out there . by the way those russian olives are nasty lol. Looking at washington overall and what is considered quality to me leaves a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth . I'm carrying quite a few quality points .I may just burn them in this state or option for a few years until i find something worth going after . you figure once you draw a tag for the most part scouting and possibly staying out of town the cost adds up. spending 1-2 k plus time off to shoot young deer deflates a guy. I truly with washington was draw only for all user groups both tribal and non. Give me 15 colorado points and see what i get right. So as sportsman drawing quality tags i ask that hunters understand what they are looking for and don't settle to give these areas a chance to be great again.