16 elk points

[Ace]

They already have ranches like that.

[Jpmiller]

It's a little weird to me that we supposedly have a crisis of dwindling hunter numbers and yet there's so many of them with so many points that they still may never draw a quality hunt...I mean what if we had increasing hunter numbers? Would the game populations even sustain that? Would we just not have anymore OTC tags at all?

50,000+ elk hunters. Maybe 20 permits that have any chance of hunting for a 360 bull.

I guess what I am asking is, does WDFW actually even want hunter numbers to go up, or are we already at maximum saturation for hunters compared to the game populations of WA? Half of this forum (named Hunting Washington) seems to think the best bet is to...*not* hunt Washington and to instead go out of state.

Yes I believe they want more hunters. There are far more hunting opportunities than 360 bulls. There are plenty of other species for one. Hunting public land, modern season big game is challenging. That said I know hunters who kill bulls every 3 to 4 years on public land. I know other hunters who work hard to get access to private land, and do much better than average.

I would be very surprised if half of Hunt Wa members don't hunt in Washington.

I wouldn't be surprised if a segment of the hunt wa populace paint a very bleak picture of hunting in this state in hopes of discouraging others to hunt out of state or give up so as to improve their odds. I'd bet these same guys would shoot an elk and monster deer every year if not for the other hunters, or the bears, or wolves, or the Indians, or the greenies, or the chem trails, or.....

[ljsommer]

Well if you combine that with being a new hunter with no idea what he's doing and nobody to show him the ropes, this gets depressing real quick. Talking to someone about out of state hunts though and hoping that comes through. I can't handle 10 years of failure.

[Mr Mykiss]

I have tons of points. I’ve started putting in with friends so they can share in the misery...

HA!!!!!!! Yeah right!!!! You were supposed to share your bull points with my and you greedily used them all by yourself!  So selfish

Yeah...because you be all like “archery hunting is the way to go dude” dang ol stick flickers anyways!!