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Re: Hatchery-Wild-Coexist
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2019, 12:15:34 PM »
Thanks for bringing this up.  More fish = more happy everybody (except possibly the Wild Fish Conservancy and their supporters). I didn't see whether or not the H&W have a position on commercial harvest, but if they don't explicitly oppose non-tribal commercials, I will throw my full support behind this group.  Along with a lot of other people who earn a living off the production of the hatchery fish.
 
Let's hope this one gets some traction.  :tup:
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Re: Hatchery-Wild-Coexist
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2019, 01:11:20 PM »
Dave from the Hatchery & Wild project got back to me already on my question about whether H&WC had a position on non-tribal commercial harvest:

"Hi Chris.  


That's a question that gets asked a lot.


H&WC is focused on highlighting the importance of hatcheries with the goal of providing healthy and abundant fisheries for all users.  Harvest methods are not part of the hatchery equation or H&WC's agenda.


Dave"

This is good news to an open-ocean mixed-stock fisher like myself.  Put more fish out, get more fish back. A rising tide lifts all boats.

Big  :tup: to @duckmen1 in bringing this up here. 
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Re: Hatchery-Wild-Coexist
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2019, 04:52:18 PM »
Thank you Skillet. As with any group trying to achieve goals this one in particular it will take time to establish throughout different areas but with more publicity it can take off very quickly if we get the right users to find ways to help this program. With the way the program wants to see things it could end the thoughts of this person is getting this and this person isn't getting that. They want to see enough fish to where we can maximize the carrying compacity to where everyone recreational or commercial can have a good share and still have a stable run to where all users are happy.
If anyone has any doubts about this program just take a look at the Quinalt reservation who is having absolutely incredible steelhead runs when the rest of the state is struggling. They have been doing this program for many years and it's showing incredible results on returns. To my knowledge they are netting 6 days a week and recreational fisherman are having catch rates that are unheard of. With huge healthy fish. Please take a look and see what you guys think.
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Re: Hatchery-Wild-Coexist
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2019, 01:05:21 PM »
While fishing for metal heads on the Snake River several years ago I hooked a massive “wild” B run steelhead. Of course I got it in and released it while in water. An old timer who was nearby (at least 70 years young I estimated) asked me if the fish was unclipped. I said yes sir, it was wild. He rashly told me to not call unclipped fish as wild. He was genuinely mad that I called it a wild fish. He said that there were no longer any true wild fish left in the northwest, that the hatchery programs have destroyed the wild fish stocks. Being young and dumb I kind of brushed him off and carried on with the day. It wasn’t until a few years later that I understood what the gentleman meant. It’s a d@mn shame that our once prosperous river systems have been relegated to what we have now. It’s even worse that the current management programs are all about numbers to make sure everyone gets a share rather than real recovery. I fear we may have lost what was once an incredible fishery thanks to the dams, overfishing and many other issues. I am not against the hatcheries, I support supplementing the naturally reproducing fish stocks but I hope someday science can help us heal our rivers and along with them the spectacular runs that once were.
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Re: Hatchery-Wild-Coexist
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2019, 01:10:57 PM »
U know what they say about hope
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