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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2019, 07:49:45 AM »
The ferries are diesel electric.
Many of the large vessels are now especially cruise ships.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #91 on: March 02, 2019, 07:55:40 AM »
The ferries are diesel electric.
Many of the large vessels are now especially cruise ships.

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Locomotives have been for a long time.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2019, 08:02:50 AM »
Can I ask why you want a diesel?

 :yeah:  The first rule of diesels is to only buy one if that is the only option unless you really want one and are willing to pay the cost up front and ongoing which is substantial to say the least.

Advances in gas engines has significantly closed the gap.

Looking to pull a dog trailer in the future and hard to look at expanding and getting a trailer without a truck to pull it. Ultimate goal is to pull a dbl axle car hauler with a ~1200 lb dog box and a ATV across the country (this is 5-10 years out) but smaller trailers building up to that. Seems unreasonable to ask that of a gas truck even if its built in a 3/4 ton truck.
I would suggest doing some research on some gassers first. That Ford Eco Boost puts down some impressive numbers.  :twocents:
A diesel is probably close to 3 times as expensive just for regular maintenance. The only way to make one pay is if you are working the snot out of it day in and day out for lots of miles and hours.

Yearly maintenance on my diesel is about $150 per year.


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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2019, 09:30:37 AM »
Well true.  WHEN it breaks is the question.  My Ford cost over $5k in repairs in 5 years.  My Dodge cummins cost me about $800 in 5 years.. repairs.  Ball joints, brake caliper and an alt.
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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2019, 11:11:31 AM »
My experience with diesel trucks is limited to 1.Early 07 2500 6 speed manual.I had it for 7 years.I bought it brand new.In less than 2 weeks it was on a wrecker going back to the dealer.That was the first of my 4 times riding in a tow truck because that Dodge was junk.That piece of garbage was in the shop 16 times in 7 years.The only thing good about that truck was the trade in value Toyota gave me on my new Tundra.5 years so far with the Tundra and zero problems and no tow trucks.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #95 on: March 02, 2019, 11:17:05 AM »
My experience with diesel trucks is limited to 1.Early 07 2500 6 speed manual.I had it for 7 years.I bought it brand new.In less than 2 weeks it was on a wrecker going back to the dealer.That was the first of my 4 times riding in a tow truck because that Dodge was junk.That piece of garbage was in the shop 16 times in 7 years.The only thing good about that truck was the trade in value Toyota gave me on my new Tundra.5 years so far with the Tundra and zero problems and no tow trucks.

Not something you hear of often, Ford or Chevy, yes; but not dodges. 
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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #96 on: March 02, 2019, 11:32:36 AM »
I spent a lot of time in the lobby at the service shop and I can tell you that most of the people there were not happy with their Dodge.Didn't matter truck or car.Much different than when I am getting an oil change now.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #97 on: March 02, 2019, 12:43:18 PM »
I spent a lot of time in the lobby at the service shop and I can tell you that most of the people there were not happy with their Dodge.Didn't matter truck or car.Much different than when I am getting an oil change now.
Was that truck a new 6.7 cummins??  I know there was many computer issues emission related in the first year or 2??
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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #98 on: March 02, 2019, 12:58:06 PM »
It was the 5.9.The motor itself was the best thing on that truck.The 4 times it got towed it was the computer.It won't run when that goes bad.It will however run with no water pump,alternator or belts.It will run with a broken hydraulic clutch line.It will run when the u-joints grenade.It will run when an axle shaft comes out of the differential.It will run when the cab leaks,windows won't roll up or down,the seats fall apart and the blower on the heater fails 3 times.I would imagine the Cummins will run when the whole truck falls apart but I got rid of that headache at 77,000 miles.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #99 on: March 02, 2019, 01:14:54 PM »
WOW!  That amazes me.  Talk about a lemon.  Just proves exception to every rule.  Were fly's on that sheet bag too! :chuckle:
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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #100 on: March 02, 2019, 01:40:10 PM »
Well true.  WHEN it breaks is the question.  My Ford cost over $5k in repairs in 5 years.  My Dodge cummins cost me about $800 in 5 years.. repairs.  Ball joints, brake caliper and an alt.

If you add labor into those repairs because most people don’t fix their own vehicles, you’re probably pushing $2000.
How much of the upgrades you’ve done to your truck eliminate Cummins problems though too, and how much have you spent on those?

For every report like yours, there’s one that says the opposite.  Working for Chrysler for 10years, I’ll tell you they break. Same goes for Ford. Same goes for Chevy. Same goes for Toyota. I have guys tell me all the time this Ford truck is the best truck they’ve ever owned. Same with Dodge. Same with Chevy. That’s why I crack up a little but when people preach the Toyota love. Who do you think has, by far, the biggest dealership service departments around here? Toyota. By double over the size of us. Last I knew the dealership in kirkland had over 30 technicians and 10 service advisors and they wrote 100 cars a day.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #101 on: March 02, 2019, 01:43:25 PM »
 :tup: Yes I do 95% myself.  You speak the truth, they all break.  Still cummins is better imop.  Many upgrades on my end, most are beneficial to quality of truck.
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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2019, 05:39:53 PM »
Well true.  WHEN it breaks is the question.  My Ford cost over $5k in repairs in 5 years.  My Dodge cummins cost me about $800 in 5 years.. repairs.  Ball joints, brake caliper and an alt.

If you add labor into those repairs because most people don’t fix their own vehicles, you’re probably pushing $2000.
How much of the upgrades you’ve done to your truck eliminate Cummins problems though too, and how much have you spent on those?

For every report like yours, there’s one that says the opposite.  Working for Chrysler for 10years, I’ll tell you they break. Same goes for Ford. Same goes for Chevy. Same goes for Toyota. I have guys tell me all the time this Ford truck is the best truck they’ve ever owned. Same with Dodge. Same with Chevy. That’s why I crack up a little but when people preach the Toyota love. Who do you think has, by far, the biggest dealership service departments around here? Toyota. By double over the size of us. Last I knew the dealership in kirkland had over 30 technicians and 10 service advisors and they wrote 100 cars a day.
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I see alot of light duty Toyotas with owners that treat them like heavy duties. Watched a guy blow up a tranny on one in under 10,000 miles towing a double axle dump trailer daily.

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Re: Used Diesel Truck Recommendations
« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2019, 06:27:03 PM »
I think the point is that if you have an F350, it is going to cost more to purchase, run and maintain than an F150.  Same is true for each brand, the heavy duty trucks are significantly more expensive.  They pull more and some just like having a bigger truck, but you will pay for that privilege.

 


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