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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2019, 05:09:55 PM »
When I read the plan, there was no consideration given to either waterfowl or hunting.  In other words, they don't care, potential benefit to wild salmon was the only thing given consideration.

Where does all the funding come from? Doesn't DU help fund these estuaries?
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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2019, 05:17:56 PM »
I don't know where the funding for the planting and maintenance comes from, may be DU money, duck stamp money, WDFW money or a combination.  The deepwater slough destruction funding is coming from:

Salmon State Projects:   $177,894   
Total RCO Grant:   $177,894   (85%)
Sponsor Match:   $31,393   (15%)
Total Agreement:   $209,287   (100%)

The Sponsor Match is money coming from the WDFW general fund, which means your dollars are being used to destroy hunting grounds and waterfowl habitat.  Salmon State Projects money comes from bonds the state takes out and Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery funds (NOAA money).

At one point there was discussion on an audit to see if any PR or DG money was used or will be used as this would put the department sideways with those programs if it used money and was discovered.

This will continue until there are no dikes left on state land, the goal is to return the land to it's native state regardless of the consequences.

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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2019, 07:18:19 PM »
DU gulps up the the WDFW Plans like a bullhead eating stink bait; the past Leque Island and HDQ's  destructions and now the Farmed Island Segment are prime examples. In fact, DU was amazed that the duck hunting public was P.O.'ed at these projects "to enhance waterfowl habitat"; when in fact they were to appease the Tribes and Fed's for salmon medication at the expense of the ducks and the  average waterfowler (ie. the walk-in type). I quit DU after over 30 years because of their inability to see the obvious misuse of public lands payed and maintained by the waterfowl hunting public. I fear WA Waterfowl is "burned out" and speaking out at these public meetings (no matter how futile) is our only way to voice our concerns.
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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2019, 08:31:08 PM »
I quit DU several years back when they supported blowing the Dikes for the original HQ salmon project.

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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2019, 06:15:23 AM »
I would appreciate a review/feedback from anyone attending this meeting. Due to distance, I am unable to attend, but I did email my concerns. Tonight (3/28) is the night.
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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2019, 07:35:45 AM »
WWA posted some questions on their FB page.  Might be worth looking at.  It would be interesting what type of results they have seen at the HQ unit, since they spent millions on that project.  They also did a big project on the snowgoose refuge, which kicked the birds out of it for the most part.  More ducks use it now than snows.  League Is. would be another one to question.  They had great waterfowl ground and habitat and now are ruining those spots.  Seems they have created feeding zones for fish ducks and cormorants.
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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2019, 09:42:07 AM »
This event was more of an open house. I'm not really sure they were accepting comments of any serious nature as the WWA NW chapter President (Rick Billieu )had 3 pages of suggestions that he couldnt hand to anyone. They did have a survey asking about usage of the different sites. Their one omission was usage of the Private lands program headed up by Rob Wingaurd big guy red hair and beard... They did have surveys at each location for his program... I didnt  hear anything specific about the salmon restoration program for the farmed island unit. They did have a boilerplate one page document about the departments responsibility for estuary restoration that acknowledged change and or loss to waterfowlers. I over heard some discussion From Loren Brokaw the Project manager that finished up the Leque Island project, and his next project is improving accessibility to all the property on Ebey Island. Some kind of an increased parking lot and some kind of small boat launch to access the center portion of the property across the slew. Apparently a Pheasant release volunteer had talked to the Army Corp of Engineers, one of the crew or something about having the bridge core  "practice" deployment of a floating bridge during the hunting season... kind of a cool idea. I forgot the name but they also had the guy in charge of all the water access sites in the greater skagit area there talking about better distribution on the maps of the properties, but most importantly the Access easements the WDFW has that do not show up on the maps.  Mostly this related to fishing access but there are some along rivers. The area he talked about was N fork of the Stillaguamish North into portions of Whatcom county. Im certain there are some cast and blast opportunities that are overlooked.

the WWA had a pretty good showing and there were folks from the Whatcom, NW, and Seattle chapters that Ive met. lots of WWA hats and plenty on the sign in sheet.
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Re: Opportunity To Comment On The Skagit WA Use Plan
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2019, 11:09:26 AM »
Pretty much what was expected, the department was checking the "public comment and input" box without actually opening their ears.  They didn't accept input or even bother to explain the rationale or have an honest discussion about actual results, success, or how they can work in other areas to at least improve somewhere else for hunters to try to mitigate the gigantic loss they have been inflicting.

They clearly don't care about hunters and are 100% focused on high profile salmon activities to the point that results don't matter, action does.  They simply want slides and statistics about how many acres are "restored" and pictures of destroying man made improvements.  This appeases the politicians and politically driven environmental groups which is the people driving department action.

All I ask is that everyone thoughtfully think about what they are buying this year from WDFW.  Do you really need all of those tags and licenses or can you focus the money and effort elsewhere?  I'm going to cut back as much as I can without major impacts to my family because every dollar I send goes to pay these salaries and their activities which have proven are not in the best interest of hunters and fishermen or the game we pursue.

 


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