U.S. Withdraws From U.N. Small Arms Treaty

[Cougartail]

Super X is either young or hasn't been paying attention. The line "eradicating the illicit trade in conventional arms" was what "Fast and Furious" was all about. Back in that era they tried to sell the idea that the US was the source of most of Mexico's illegal firearms. They did this with tricky language. "Of all the guns seized and identified most came from America". The problem here is that the majority seized couldn't be identified because of no serial numbers due to Russian and China's lack of stamping them. (Along with other countries.)

first, I have been at this for a long time so not young.  Also paid attention but can't draw the line between the AAT and an ATF sting operation well enough to see why you think it's relevant.

If you were paying attention (which Super X obviously wasn't..) the guns the government trafficked into Mexico wasn't the politically correct type but those considered "assault rifles". The 2nd Amendment protection of this class of weapon is disputed by the left as individuals don't need them for hunting or personal protection thus we don't have a "right" to them. (A complete misconception by people who know nothing of history or the English language!)

There was no gun trafficking by our government it was an operation to let illegal gun purchasers 'walk' to see where the guns ended up.   Again, how is this relevant to the UN or the treaty we're talking about?  You make vast assumptions based on your own theories that don't hold water.

So the narrative was, we aren't doing our part in controlling small arms of the "Military Style" and violating the treaty. Thus we were to ban the sale of these types of weapons and register them.

OK so this is the data you think applies to the ATT?  That some people had a narrative that we should register guns.  nothing of what you say is in the ATT and the argument you make is specious

They will tell you they were tracking the guns to see who was getting them but in fact they were setting up news stories and fall guys for selling their justification for more gun control on Ar's, AKs, and that class of weapon.

Your alternative facts are orthogonal to the discussion

If the far left nutjobs didn't have uneducated gullible followers they would powerless..

I voted for Ford, Reagan and Bush, which obviously makes me a nut job or gullible, just not left.

There was no Arms trafficking by the government??? Instructing gun dealers to allow known straw buyers to buy guns and "traffic" them into Mexico is a thin line. Facilitation of a crime is part of the crime. Bush's operation "wide receiver" the buyers were arrested immediately upon delivery of firearms.
That is a sting operation.
Better look up the definition of "arms trafficking"..

[LDennis24]

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Totally what I was thinking... It's so tiresome to hear someone argue in favor of such garbage and try to legitimize it. I'm a jerk sometimes in this instance so I refrain from engaging but wow... I feel that the requirements for registration alone are a legitimate reason to not be in the treaty. I was born in 1984 and cannot remember a time when the U.N. appealed to me. Same with the Hague. Here's a link to a video that talks about our right to not have a national registery and what actually happens to your paperwork after purchasing a firearm. Just gives a little insight.

Oh yeah and the NRA link for Civil defense of individuals.

https://www.nradefensefund.org/eligible-cases.aspx

[pianoman9701]

When you're in favor of globalization and relinquishing sovereignty, these bills apparently aren't much of a threat. To me, the UN has become a joke of global proportions. They take every penny they can out of the US and then turn around a bash us every chance they get. There would be no negative result for the US to pull out of that organization. As a matter of fact, it might help us find our intestinal fortitude as a country, once again.