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The Second Amendment did not grant or create the right to bear arms.......the Second Amendment was created by the right to bear arms. That right existed before the Constitution. The Second Amendment merely recognizes that pre-existing right, and declares that the government is constrained in any attempts to violate the right of citizens to bear arms. The right to keep and bear arms would still be there without the Second Amendment. The whole "militia" thing is nonsense.
If we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.
Quote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?
Quote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....
Quote from: Dan-o on June 08, 2019, 03:18:52 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....Do you think that the government actually grants you the rights to freedom of speech, bearing of arms, practicing whichever religion you choose, etc., etc., etc. ?
Quote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 03:53:55 PMQuote from: Dan-o on June 08, 2019, 03:18:52 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....Do you think that the government actually grants you the rights to freedom of speech, bearing of arms, practicing whichever religion you choose, etc., etc., etc. ?Given that those rights don't exist in most countries of the world, yes.
Or the rights are there, but not acknowledged and suppressed by those governments.
Quote from: Bob33 on June 08, 2019, 04:44:35 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 03:53:55 PMQuote from: Dan-o on June 08, 2019, 03:18:52 PMQuote from: Igor on June 08, 2019, 02:55:38 PMQuote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2019, 08:44:42 AMIf we didn't have the 2nd Amendment most if not all of our firearms rights would be long gone in nearly every liberal leaning area of this country if not the whole country. It is a constant battle for the NRA and other groups and individuals bringing lawsuits based on the 2nd Amendment against liberal jurisdictions who try to infringe or remove our right to bear arms.That's simply not true......rights are not granted nor taken away by government, nor liberals. Do you honestly believe that if the government decided to get rid of the 1st Amendment we would no longer have the right to free speech in this country ?Try telling that to your North Korean friends. Oh wait..... you can't, because they have nothing like a 1st amendment protection.Do you seriously think that your natural rights can't be trampled by Gov't?There are examples all around the world.At least their right to keep and bear arms is intact. Oh... wait.....Do you think that the government actually grants you the rights to freedom of speech, bearing of arms, practicing whichever religion you choose, etc., etc., etc. ?Given that those rights don't exist in most countries of the world, yes.Do you agree with the concept of a natural right ? Please explain to me how a natural right, or unalienable right, can exist in one country but not another.