lopez island

[widgeonwacher]

my cousin drew the second deer tag for lopez and was wondering if there is any people on here with some private they could help us out with. thank you in advance.

[baker5150]

There is a little state land and BLM out there.

You'll also need a permit form if hunting Private land with permission

https://www.sanjuanco.com/DocumentCenter/View/792/Hunting-Permit-PDF?bidId=

[grade-creek-rd]

That's an interesting ordinance...though I don't see how it would hold up in court if the person has permission...say they are checked while hunting and "arrested" (it's a misdemeanor so probably a citation to see the judge). Then during court the hunter (defendant) and landowner who gave permission go to court and confirm there was permission. The hunter is found guilty of not having the permission slip on them, but it's private property and the 4th and 6th Amendment are pretty specific on over-reach of the government and this would be an over reach...saying you have to have a piece of paper on you while on private land that the government has no control over...that's like saying I have to have a note to go visit my friends house otherwise I can be thrown in jail...I get the purpose, to keep trespassing down as well as stop complaints from the anti-hunting neighbor who calls the sheriff every time they see camo but really I don't think mandating a permission slip issued by the government to be on private property is legal in this country...

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[Stein]

You have to have a hunting license to legally shoot an animal on private, hunting anywhere is a privilege bestowed on us by the govt.  Local government can make more restrictive laws like no shooting zones or weapon restrictions.

The real question is how much a guy would be willing to spend to defend himself.


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[baker5150]

That's an interesting ordinance...though I don't see how it would hold up in court if the person has permission...say they are checked while hunting and "arrested" (it's a misdemeanor so probably a citation to see the judge). Then during court the hunter (defendant) and landowner who gave permission go to court and confirm there was permission. The hunter is found guilty of not having the permission slip on them, but it's private property and the 4th and 6th Amendment are pretty specific on over-reach of the government and this would be an over reach...saying you have to have a piece of paper on you while on private land that the government has no control over...that's like saying I have to have a note to go visit my friends house otherwise I can be thrown in jail...I get the purpose, to keep trespassing down as well as stop complaints from the anti-hunting neighbor who calls the sheriff every time they see camo but really I don't think mandating a permission slip issued by the government to be on private property is legal in this country...

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It's interesting.  The permit says nothing about hunting at all, just discharging of a firearm or bow and arrow type device.

The rest of the "permit" is simply a form that can be used as a way to prove permission was granted.  I don't believe you are required to have this exact form, just some sort of written permission.

[grade-creek-rd]

Stein,

I get what your saying, except hunting license/tags are for the taking an animal that is owned by the public (we own the animals regardless of land ownership), and restrictions such as discharging a firearm are safety rules that can be put into place, again actions can be restricted (hunting in city limits, discharging guns, no fires, etc) but the main difference I was pointing out is the requirement of a written note allowing someone permission to be on private property (regardless of their activity). I don't think the government can require a written note by a landowner to allow a person on their land, its the landowners right to allow anyone they want without the governments approval/notice/input.

And before others mention the "hunt by written permission" program, that is voluntary program not a requirement.

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