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The real culprit of Elk decline
« on: August 25, 2019, 09:42:22 PM »
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/25/hiking-elk-driven-to-brink-colorado-vail

Americans’ love of hiking has driven elk to the brink, scientists say
Trail use near Vail, Colorado, has more than doubled since 2009. It’s had a devastating impact on a herd of elk

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Biologists used to count over 1,000 head of elk from the air near Vail, Colorado. The majestic brown animals, a symbol of the American west, dotted hundreds of square miles of slopes and valleys.

But when researchers flew the same area in February for an annual elk count, they saw only 53.

“Very few elk, not even many tracks,” their notes read. “Lots of backcountry skiing tracks.”

The surprising culprit isn’t expanding fossil-fuel development, herd mismanagement by state agencies or predators, wildlife managers say. It’s increasing numbers of outdoor recreationists – everything from hikers, mountain bikers and backcountry skiers to Jeep, all-terrain vehicle and motorcycle riders. Researchers are now starting to understand why.

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The impact on wildlife is only recently apparent, and the Vail elk herd may be one of the more egregious examples.

Outdoor recreation has long been popular in Colorado, but trail use near Vail has more than doubled since 2009. Some trails host as many as 170,000 people in a year.

Recreation continues nearly 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, said Bill Andree, who retired as Colorado Parks and Wildlife’s Vail district wildlife manager in 2018. Night trail use in some areas has also gone up 30% in the past decade. People are traveling even deeper into woods and higher up peaks in part because of improved technology, and in part to escape crowds.

The elk in unit 45, as it’s called, live between 7,000 and 11,000 feet on the pine, spruce and aspen-covered hillsides and peaks of the Colorado Rockies, about 100 miles from Denver. Their numbers have been dropping precipitously since the early 2010s.

Elk stand in an open field in 2014 between the Eagle River and Interstate 70 just east of the town of Eagle, Colorado near Vail, Colorado.
Elk stand in an open field in 2014 between the Eagle River and Interstate 70 just east of the town of Eagle, Colorado, near Vail, Colorado. Photograph: Richard Spitzer/The Guardian
Blaming hiking, biking and skiing is controversial in a state where outdoor recreation is expected to pump $62.5bn into the state’s economy in 2019, an 81% increase from 2014.

But for Bill Alldredge, a now-retired wildlife professor at Colorado State University, there is no other explanation. He started studying unit 45 in the 1980s in response to expanding ski resorts and trails systems.

To measure the impact on calves, he deliberately sent eight people hiking into calving areas until radio-collared elk showed signs of disturbance, such as standing up or walking away. The consequences were startling. About 30% of the elk calves died when their mothers were disturbed an average of seven times during calving. Models showed that if each cow elk was bothered 10 times during calving, all their calves would die.

When disturbances stopped, the number of calves bounced back.

Why, exactly, elk calves die after human activity as mellow as hiking is not entirely clear. Some likely perish because the mothers, startled by passing humans and their canine companions, run too far away for the calves to catch up, weakening the young and making them more susceptible to starvation or predation from lions or bears. Other times it may be that stress from passing recreationists results in the mother making less milk.

“If you’ve ever had a pregnant wife, and in the third trimester you chase her around the house in two feet of snow, you’ll get an idea of what she thinks about it,” Andree said.

The problems came to a head in 2017, when a group called the Vail Valley Mountain Trails Alliance proposed building a new trail through more of unit 45’s elk calving area.

Andree wrote a letter explaining the dire impact of constant recreation on elk. Even if certain trails were closed during calving season, he said, elk would still be disturbed because some people simply disregarded instructions for them to keep out.

“Generally when you ask people to stay out of the area no matter what the reason is, 80-90% obey you,” Andree said. “But if you get 10% who don’t obey you, you haven’t done any good.”


The recreation community acknowledges its impact on wildlife as well as other development, said Ernest Saeger, the executive director of the mountain trails alliance. Many people don’t understand the significance of the closures. Others, he acknowledged, just don’t care.

So the group formed a trail ambassador program to post more informative signs at closures and even place volunteers at trailheads to explain why trails are closed. The scheme reduced closure violations in 2018, according to Forest Service numbers.

If trail building and closure violations in critical habitat continue, Devin Duval, Colorado Parks and Wildlife’s district wildlife manager in the area, anticipates the worst.

“It will be a biological desert,” he said.

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2019, 09:56:24 PM »
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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2019, 10:13:01 PM »
 :yeah:


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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2019, 09:16:25 AM »
Thanks Cheryl Strayed

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2019, 03:56:53 PM »
Good read!

At least the groups are acknowledging their impact and trying to mitigate the impact.

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2019, 04:12:25 PM »
Wat a bunch liberal garbage.  I don't buy it.  Idiots imop.  Better close it up to the rich who pay for $$ permits to view.  Orcas and boats at least has some merit however small.
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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2019, 05:34:16 PM »
Wat a bunch liberal garbage.  I don't buy it.  Idiots imop.  Better close it up to the rich who pay for $$ permits to view.  Orcas and boats at least has some merit however small.
I'm unclear on a number of things:
1. What exactly is liberal at all about the article?
2. Are the hikers all "liberal garbage"?
3. Do you not buy the reasearch the CSU professor did? Or his conclusions? If not, what criticisms do you have?
4. What is the point of labeling this as liberal or otherwise? Can't we all just learn a little bit of something about how elk are impacted by certain activities?
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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2019, 06:55:00 PM »
" Some likely perish because the mothers, startled by passing humans and their canine companions, run too far away for the calves to catch up, weakening the young and making them more susceptible to starvation or predation from lions or bears. "

So, they make these claims about the occasional dog accompanying a hiker, but deny the impact wolves have.   The agenda for environmental groups and the Bios is to eliminate recreation and access.  They only care about power, and animals are just leverage.  That's why predators are their Holy Grail.  See the appallingly insane protection of predators in 113 while the Selkirk Caribou were being wiped out. 

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2019, 07:03:55 PM »
I am sure elk decline has nothing to do with predators...  I read only 10% of people dis obey and disturb the elk.  Trail closures, no access.  Preserve and keep people away.  Hunting?  Uh sure 1 at time please.  So we should expect all the elk in Yellowstone, Rainer, St Helens, Olympics to DIE cause to many people around?  Really?  Junk science to strengthen their real agenda imop.   Can you hunt bait, or hounds?  Are bear cat populations increasing in the same trend as elk decline?  Hmm.  Rocket science.  Liberal garbage.
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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2019, 07:10:25 PM »
Man thinking bout this some more I come to a conclusion.  We are in trouble as so MANY people just take this junk as the "TRUTH" and believe it while not thinking or asking questions or having independent thoughts on the matter.  Not asking "What is the agenda or credibility or intelligence/common sense of these professors?"  Is there a major college that isn't liberal left? :twocents:
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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2019, 08:41:16 PM »
"See the appallingly insane protection of predators in 113 while the Selkirk Caribou were being wiped out."

 :tup: buglebrush  :tup:

Canada is trying to protect what they have left BUT this idiot state with all their "educated"(past their intelligence) biologist and eco-freaks don't care one Iota about the demise of a species!   Actions speak louder then words! 
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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2019, 09:17:24 PM »
I'll buy it. I think human encroachment in any capacity effects game indirectly which makes it hard to dircectly measure. A house here, a trail there, it all adds up  :twocents:

I'll add that, its my opinion that this displacement moves game to places they wouldn't have been in previously, concentrating them and then this also concentrates predators. Throw in the fact that hunters are handcuffed hunting predators and its not a good thing for ungulates.

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 06:38:23 AM »
Must be why the best recruitment in the Methow are the deer in town, or could it be because those are the only ones safe from sharp teeth.  Science is cool, agendas are *censored*

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 06:51:15 AM »
Must be why the best recruitment in the Methow are the deer in town, or could it be because those are the only ones safe from sharp teeth.  Science is cool, agendas are *censored*

Exactly.  Elk in our areas are now crowded as close as possible to civilization.  Huge areas way back in are empty, and it's directly because of predators.  Used to walk a ridge line and hear bugles in every little basin.  Now you'll find an elk about once every ten basins.  Yet, my family has lived at the base of a mountain with no road or trail access backed against national Forest for 30 years and it wasn't until wolves that the elk started hanging around the barn year round.  They prefer our ATVs, dogs, yells, gunshots, etc to what's going on back up in the wild country. 

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Re: The real culprit of Elk decline
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 07:04:51 AM »
While I'm not entirely sold on this, we arent talking about selkirk or the methow. Anyone who has been to Vail and surrounding areas can attest to the absurd amount of trails and hikers/bikers. Literally thousands! The elk in the surrounding mountains aren't semi habituated cattle like the Yellowstone critters. When I go into the hills, which I do a lit, and I encounter animals and they realize I'm there they turn inside out to get away. So is it liberal absurdity to assume if a bunch of hippies are going off trail up in the mountains that they are disturbing elk? 10% going of trail is thousands of people a year in the area being discussed. Wolves aren't running around Vail eating elk either. If this is liberal garbage then the libs are targeting the libs for once which is a nice change of pace :chuckle:

Like I said, I'm not sold on this one but let's be realistic in our comparisons  :twocents:
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