e bike discussion

[trophyhunt]

That timber sign says nothing about riding a bike, I'm all in on that gate!!

But if you took five minutes to look at there policy and access rules.You might change your mind.The reason most access is taken away is no respect for property owner rules.

https://www.stimsonlumber.com/social-responsibility/recreational-access/

If the feds say 750 watt and under isn’t considered motorized, then I’m following the rules right?

[Mudman]

I am just curious how many people have "walked completely through these closed access lands?  In my expeience ya cant.  5-10 miles in is possible often but some are 15-50 miles so explain to me how a person is to legally access these lands and be a "Good People"?   I support public access.  Ride on brothers, till ya cant.  Stand up for freedoms.

[Bullkllr]

Why are some so gung-ho to cheat the system?

Really don't get it. Non-motorized seems abundantly clear, but some gotta twist it. "Well, it's ok because my motor's not very big..." Where does it end?

[hunter399]

That timber sign says nothing about riding a bike, I'm all in on that gate!!

But if you took five minutes to look at there policy and access rules.You might change your mind.The reason most access is taken away is no respect for property owner rules.

https://www.stimsonlumber.com/social-responsibility/recreational-access/

If the feds say 750 watt and under isn’t considered motorized, then I’m following the rules right?

On federal land yes,private land you have to follow rules set by land owner if you want to have access .ITS CALLED RESPECT.

[Mudman]

Why are some so gung-ho to cheat the system?

Really don't get it. Non-motorized seems abundantly clear, but some gotta twist it. "Well, it's ok because my motor's not very big..." Where does it end?

Easy answer.  We remember when we could access lands.   We are fed up with this states bull.  FED UP!  Were you hunting here 30 years ago?  If so I would think ya get it.

[Bullkllr]

Why are some so gung-ho to cheat the system?

Really don't get it. Non-motorized seems abundantly clear, but some gotta twist it. "Well, it's ok because my motor's not very big..." Where does it end?

Easy answer.  We remember when we could access lands.   We are fed up with this states bull.  FED UP!  Were you hunting here 30 years ago?  If so I would think ya get it.

I've been hunting for over 40 years here in WA and yeah, the access trend has been terrible.  I still think there's something to be said for working hard to access gated areas instead of depending on technology, not to mention respecting the rules of the land management AND the hunters that do it the right way,

[kselkhunter]

Why are some so gung-ho to cheat the system?

Really don't get it. Non-motorized seems abundantly clear, but some gotta twist it. "Well, it's ok because my motor's not very big..." Where does it end?

Easy answer.  We remember when we could access lands.   We are fed up with this states bull.  FED UP!  Were you hunting here 30 years ago?  If so I would think ya get it.

Huh?  How is the state of Washington to blame for blocking you from accessing private timber lands with an ebike?


Or are you referring to state owned DNR lands?


57% of Washington lands is private ownership....mostly by timber companies
27% is federal ownership, mostly the national forests and national parks, some BLM
14% is state DNR, state parks, etc.
2% is city/county owned

[trophyhunt]

If i had a 750 or less ebike, it’s considered non mortorized, so I’m not breaking any rules.  Timber co or state land, now if the land owner says, no bicycles allowed, then I’d be breaking the rules. It’s all how you read it, and it could be read many different ways.  I’d say in court with a good lawyer, I’d be just fine under the current verbiage.

[Mudman]

Correct me if wrong but I thought the original agreement with Weyco to purchase said lands at cheap price was to include public access for tax breaks and such.  Yet here we are getting the shaft as all other private Co/land owners follow precedents set by weyco.  So lobby and congress of Wa is to blame...  And don't give me crap about walk ins and permits as public access, its not.

[millerwheeler]

Correct me if wrong but I thought the original agreement with Weyco to purchase said lands at cheap price was to include public access for tax breaks and such.  Yet here we are getting the shaft as all other private Co/land owners follow precedents set by weyco.  So lobby and congress of Wa is to blame...  And don't give me crap about walk ins and permits as public access, its not.

That was 100% the original agreement