What happened to pearrygin and okanogan deer hunting

[hunter399]

I do not agree 65 and over and disabled are the future.........youth, yes.  No doe permits period until herds rebound.  Youth, any buck.  The only acknowledgement wdfw made in regards to herd health was the suspension of doe hunts in n. e. wa. 

Restrictions should only follow failed genuine serious attempts to control predators, starting with changing their status from big game animals to predators, and then being hunted aggressively as such.

Im now 65 and never in my life has anyone gave a rats ass if I was ever able to kill a deer......I dont want a doe and I dont want a baby buck and neither does any of the guys I hunt with.  We all demand the 4pt minimum back, and are continueing to fight for it.  Youth any buck is the only concession to consider for me. 

I just cant get totally on board with voluntary concessions (no multi season, every other year, etc.) when we should be demanding predator control and other options that dont take away hunting opportunity.  By that I mean we still get to hunt, but what we hunt can be limited to 4pt or better for whitetail, no does, etc., we get to hunt but succes may be more difficult until we see the returns of limiting ourselves and making a valiant effort to control ALL predators.

These are just my thoughts and are not intended to do anything other than provide another perspective.  It is by no means an effort to affront any other hunters or user groups, just ideas like everyone elses.  R

I'm not totally disagreed with ya.
I would also like to see the no doe harvest continue in NE Washington.but after the pocket book got hit hard this year I'm almost sure we will see some kind of changes.

I'm also a big supporter of 4pt min it was doing great things,and still could.

One problem with the predators is people will come from all corners of the state to hunt deer,but won't come to NE Washington to hunt predators.So choose which side of the state your gonna hunt deer on would help with this.

I know most of what I have said is not all about mule deer.

No doe harvest at all for mule deer.Statewide.

Choose which side of state to hunt deer also helps mule deer , So many hunt mule deer than go home to hunt blacktail or whitetail later seasons.

A 4pt min for mule deer.This also helps people shooting forky mule deer cause there not gonna magically grow 4pts.



I seen taking away multiseason not a real option but all the deer herds have been reduced since it started.a lot of people say management was better 30 years ago , but you have to look at the changes.years ago you got one season ,not three.

I do agree WDFW just wants to make money.
But at the end of the day should take a look at other states like Montana,idaho,they make tons of money .you actually make more money when people have animals to hunt.and take some notes on predator mangement.

[bigmacc]

My opinion,  with 3 point restrictions you find dead 2 points, 4 point restrictions you find dead 3 points. A spike is a spike, if any antler restrictions are in place I would rather see no shooting spikes, 2 points(branch antler) and up are open season, only and along with cutting pressure in half in some of this states "premier" units by limiting half the hunters into them each year based on an odd-even system( :tup:huntnphool) I just wonder what could happen, once established and those units eventually are known to hold bigger deer folks will hold out, they will let 2 points walk knowing there are bigger bucks to be had,way less "mistakes" and if they choose to shoot a 2 point to put meat in the freezer, well then, good for them, that nice little buck won't be found rotting, it will be put to use for a family. As Ive said, I personally would be willing to pay extra for my tag and license every other year when my number was due just to have a slice of the quality and opportiunity we had 25,30 and more years ago, NOW, also like I have said, get the state to widdle away at predators and then keep them in check, heck I would pay triple on my years to hunt those units if that would also come into play.... I am talking Methow units here.....Heck if it works, expand it into units in other counties for Mule deer..... just my  :twocents:folks, by the way, Happy Thanksgiving.

[Bango skank]

There will always be dirtbags, law breakers etc no matter what the rules are.  I dont think opening the flood gates and allowing everybody out there to shoot every baby buck they see is the answer.  Its not a solution to anything, itsnot what our ailing herds need.

[MADMAX]

Anyone a mule deer foundation member. ?
I wonder if they are engaged in solutions and rebuilding efforts in regards to the loss of this historic herd

[buckfvr]

Doesnt matter what you give up or you are willing to hunt everyother year or so, you can never have hunting as it was 25-30 years ago because too much has changed, way too much winter range is occupied by people.......its a pipe dream to think it can come back that far, never will no matter what.  Stop managing for high yield of young animal.    Let the dinks walk.

[Skyvalhunter]

Twitter range occupied by people is not as big of an issue as you think they adapt. It's not like a bunch of houses are being built on deer winter or migratory range.

[bigmacc]

Twitter range occupied by people is not as big of an issue as you think they adapt. It's not like a bunch of houses are being built on deer winter or migratory range.

 ....They do adapt, IMHO houses or people are close to the bottom of the list for what has contributed to the decline of the Methow herd, heck we have seen muley bucks laying on peoples patio furniture and on  porches!, told that story awhile ago, some of those big migrations of the past, well, we seen many of them weaving in and out of farm equipment, shops, barns and parked cars once they would get close to civilization, seen a herd of around 500 come down Cub one year back in the 70,s walking right through peoples yards and strolling down driveways, didn't bother them a bit, they were on a mission to get to the bottom, cross the river and head south. During a few real cold winters there were times there were dozens of deer congregated around compressors behind some of the businesses in Winthrop to warm up a little. Pretty adaptable animals when it comes to that kind of stuff and when they need to be. Heck, I guess you could say nowadays a lot of those houses and private property may actually be helping save some deer, thats where they all seem to be congregating to escape predators.

[boneaddict]

If I were to drive to the Methow today to look for a big buck, the place I'd most likely find one is next to a house on private land, mostly as its the only game reserve in the area where they wont get shot.  Its the most protected from poachers and wolves might be discouraged a little from eating in the front lawn.  The latter will be less effective as their food source dwindles and their only option is to eat next to the pink flamingo or garden gnome.

There is winter range that is unburnt and no houses and still no deer.

[bigmacc]

If I were to drive to the Methow today to look for a big buck, the place I'd most likely find one is next to a house on private land, mostly as its the only game reserve in the area where they wont get shot.  Its the most protected from poachers and wolves might be discouraged a little from eating in the front lawn.  The latter will be less effective as their food source dwindles and their only option is to eat next to the pink flamingo or garden gnome.

There is winter range that is unburnt and no houses and still no deer.

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