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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2020, 07:32:12 AM »
Well why can’t they keep it open for red rock at least? I mean yea sure they aren’t as good but I have no shame in the red rock game. That’s like saying the mule deer population is catastrophically low, therefore we won’t allow any deer hunting including white tails in the area.    Just irritated, I live a mile from salt on both sides and can’t get my crab on.

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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2020, 08:42:44 AM »
It would be too difficult to patrol, let's face it there are a ton of sportsmen that don't read regulations as well as crab poachers.

It's a bit easier for me to say it as I'm not down there, but the best option is to leave them alone until they can recover.

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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2020, 10:32:57 AM »
It would be too difficult to patrol, let's face it there are a ton of sportsmen that don't read regulations as well as crab poachers.

It's a bit easier for me to say it as I'm not down there, but the best option is to leave them alone until they can recover.

Unfortunately, this is too true. I have to remind people all the time out here on the closed days....

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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2020, 11:54:04 AM »
My understanding is that the tribe/non-tribe split is 50/50 and of our 50%, sport gets way more than commercial.  I would guess that isn't even across all areas, but statewide, tribal is the largest followed by recreational followed by commercial.

Recreational is more of an impact than commercial ? That's  LAUGHABLE  think on that really
I'd be happy to take you for a ride in 7 or 8 when the season starts.  The effort is only rivaled by maybe lowland lakes opener. I think(north sound)  is one of the last strongholds in terms of success for the rec fleet.  That said the launch wait times are usually 1 hour or more.


And are those areas more full.bow because of closure elsewhere ?  Gonna be same affect for those areas next I suppose .

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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2020, 07:40:53 PM »
Millerwheeler, area 7 and 8 are always very popular rec areas.  I would guess there's some economic benefits to the local economy via day crabbers now make a trip of it.  To your statement about the future, I will say we all hope not.  The south sound had a catastrophic population collapse that was not due to overfishing.  Nearly every cohort in the population disappeared almost at once. The fishery is designed to be as sustainable as any fishery in the world.  Harvesting (lsm) 6 1/4 inch and larger males is biologically sustainable.  As long as your adult female population is physically smaller as well as not harvested this is a good model.  That said a collapse could absolutely happen. The only way to attempt to avoid (if possible) this is to monitor the crab ary all life stages instead of looking only at the lsm surplus as the only measure.  Unfortunately this level of analysis was not done in the past, it is however a focal point going forward.

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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2020, 08:34:14 PM »
Something is happening in the south sound that isn’t happening up north.  So far it is a localized issue.  Maybe it gets better, maybe it spreads north.

As was stated, something wiped out an entire generation of crab there and all we know is that it wasn’t pots.


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Re: south puget sound crabbing
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2020, 08:53:29 PM »
Millerwheeler, area 7 and 8 are always very popular rec areas.  I would guess there's some economic benefits to the local economy via day crabbers now make a trip of it.  To your statement about the future, I will say we all hope not.  The south sound had a catastrophic population collapse that was not due to overfishing.  Nearly every cohort in the population disappeared almost at once. The fishery is designed to be as sustainable as any fishery in the world.  Harvesting (lsm) 6 1/4 inch and larger males is biologically sustainable.  As long as your adult female population is physically smaller as well as not harvested this is a good model.  That said a collapse could absolutely happen. The only way to attempt to avoid (if possible) this is to monitor the crab ary all life stages instead of looking only at the lsm surplus as the only measure.  Unfortunately this level of analysis was not done in the past, it is however a focal point going forward.
Appreciate the info and reply

 


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