Hoof rot found in Yakima herd

[jmscon]

https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/wdfw-and-wsu-confirm-case-elk-hoof-disease-yakima-elk-herd

Going to be in every herd in WA pretty soon!

[gonehuntin68]

Yeah. This is getting really sad. Wish there was something that could be done.

[slim9300]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!


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[BA Mongor]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!

Is this statement a fact Slim?

Or are you just being sarcastic? I'm assuming sarcastic. The fact that it's over on the east side is extremely saddening and the effects of this disease on the herds will be devastating for decades to come. Me personally, I've dealt with it for over 20-years now with my local herds here on the coast and have had to put down enough animals versus watching them being eaten alive or starving. Either way, it's truly heartbreaking.

Is it chemicals from the timber companies? Maybe...
Is it a disease that formed naturally? Maybe....
Is it a disease that came about because of a weakened immune system? Maybe....
Is it a combination of all of these things and other factors that we're not aware? Maybe....And in my opinion, more than likely. 

I do know that it's impossible to eradicate and as of right now, incurable! Unless we plan on randomly slaughtering herds. And they tried that, and it didn't work. The large herds that were so common here in SW WA have been decimated and unless some miracle occurs in the near future, the east herds will see the same fate. 

[bornhunter]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!

Is this statement a fact Slim?

Or are you just being sarcastic? I'm assuming sarcastic. The fact that it's over on the east side is extremely saddening and the effects of this disease on the herds will be devastating for decades to come. Me personally, I've dealt with it for over 20-years now with my local herds here on the coast and have had to put down enough animals versus watching them being eaten alive or starving. Either way, it's truly heartbreaking.

Is it chemicals from the timber companies? Maybe...
Is it a disease that formed naturally? Maybe....
Is it a disease that came about because of a weakened immune system? Maybe....
Is it a combination of all of these things and other factors that we're not aware? Maybe....And in my opinion, more than likely. 

I do know that it's impossible to eradicate and as of right now, incurable! Unless we plan on randomly slaughtering herds. And they tried that, and it didn't work. The large herds that were so common here in SW WA have been decimated and unless some miracle occurs in the near future, the east herds will see the same fate. 

Sad but true. Have put several down in my area so would not suffer anymore.

[Pegasus]

Too bad we can't release some wolves into the area to clean up the diseased. Oh, wait...

[Boss .300 winmag]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!


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Their summer range can overlap, and some west side elk could migrate to the East in the summer, or late fall carrying the hoof rot with them.

[slim9300]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!


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Their summer range can overlap, and some west side elk could migrate to the East in the summer, or late fall carrying the hoof rot with them.

False. There are multiple locations with hoof rot in WA and OR where the elk never come close to overlapping. How do you explain the Blue Mountains having confirmed cases of hoof rot?

A buddy of mine that is more involved in this research than anyone else I know, feels like it’s due to elk interacting with bovines. And the mutation of bacteria spread from cattle to elk. As you should know, elk are basically cows (their closest living relative). Elk are much closer to the biology of a bovine than a deer for example.


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[slim9300]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!

Is this statement a fact Slim?

Or are you just being sarcastic? I'm assuming sarcastic. The fact that it's over on the east side is extremely saddening and the effects of this disease on the herds will be devastating for decades to come. Me personally, I've dealt with it for over 20-years now with my local herds here on the coast and have had to put down enough animals versus watching them being eaten alive or starving. Either way, it's truly heartbreaking.

Is it chemicals from the timber companies? Maybe...
Is it a disease that formed naturally? Maybe....
Is it a disease that came about because of a weakened immune system? Maybe....
Is it a combination of all of these things and other factors that we're not aware? Maybe....And in my opinion, more than likely. 

I do know that it's impossible to eradicate and as of right now, incurable! Unless we plan on randomly slaughtering herds. And they tried that, and it didn't work. The large herds that were so common here in SW WA have been decimated and unless some miracle occurs in the near future, the east herds will see the same fate. 

It was sarcasm. See my post above.

I have hunted Western WA elk for 23 years. I am well aware of the progression. 20 years ago I was chasing elk right across the river from the football field in Pe Ell that had multiple with hoof rot and bad limps. Thankfully this condition is regional on the Westside and is not evenly distributed. It must be due to the relatively tiny range of coastal elk (which supports my buddy’s theory of bovine interaction). In the very large area I have hunted for the last 15 years, I have not witnessed a single elk affected by hoof rot. My partner and I have killed a pile of them, and I have watched hundreds of elk.


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[bornhunter]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!

Is this statement a fact Slim?

Or are you just being sarcastic? I'm assuming sarcastic. The fact that it's over on the east side is extremely saddening and the effects of this disease on the herds will be devastating for decades to come. Me personally, I've dealt with it for over 20-years now with my local herds here on the coast and have had to put down enough animals versus watching them being eaten alive or starving. Either way, it's truly heartbreaking.

Is it chemicals from the timber companies? Maybe...
Is it a disease that formed naturally? Maybe....
Is it a disease that came about because of a weakened immune system? Maybe....
Is it a combination of all of these things and other factors that we're not aware? Maybe....And in my opinion, more than likely. 

I do know that it's impossible to eradicate and as of right now, incurable! Unless we plan on randomly slaughtering herds. And they tried that, and it didn't work. The large herds that were so common here in SW WA have been decimated and unless some miracle occurs in the near future, the east herds will see the same fate. 

It was sarcasm. See my post above.

I have hunted Western WA elk for 23 years. I am well aware of the progression. 20 years ago I was chasing elk right across the river from the football field in Pe Ell that had multiple with hoof rot and bad limps. Thankfully this condition is regional on the Westside and is not evenly distributed. It must be due to the relatively tiny range of coastal elk (which supports my buddy’s theory of bovine interaction). In the very large area I have hunted for the last 15 years, I have not witnessed a single elk affected by hoof rot. My partner and I have killed a pile of them, and I have watched hundreds of elk.


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The herd in my neighborhood are all sick. 25 to 30.

[slim9300]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!

Is this statement a fact Slim?

Or are you just being sarcastic? I'm assuming sarcastic. The fact that it's over on the east side is extremely saddening and the effects of this disease on the herds will be devastating for decades to come. Me personally, I've dealt with it for over 20-years now with my local herds here on the coast and have had to put down enough animals versus watching them being eaten alive or starving. Either way, it's truly heartbreaking.

Is it chemicals from the timber companies? Maybe...
Is it a disease that formed naturally? Maybe....
Is it a disease that came about because of a weakened immune system? Maybe....
Is it a combination of all of these things and other factors that we're not aware? Maybe....And in my opinion, more than likely. 

I do know that it's impossible to eradicate and as of right now, incurable! Unless we plan on randomly slaughtering herds. And they tried that, and it didn't work. The large herds that were so common here in SW WA have been decimated and unless some miracle occurs in the near future, the east herds will see the same fate. 

It was sarcasm. See my post above.

I have hunted Western WA elk for 23 years. I am well aware of the progression. 20 years ago I was chasing elk right across the river from the football field in Pe Ell that had multiple with hoof rot and bad limps. Thankfully this condition is regional on the Westside and is not evenly distributed. It must be due to the relatively tiny range of coastal elk (which supports my buddy’s theory of bovine interaction). In the very large area I have hunted for the last 15 years, I have not witnessed a single elk affected by hoof rot. My partner and I have killed a pile of them, and I have watched hundreds of elk.


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The herd in my neighborhood are all sick. 25 to 30.

Any cows in their home range?


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[jstone]

Is there private timber companies in the blue mountains that spray?

[trophyhunt]

Was there hoof rot before Helens blew? 

[bornhunter]

...but it’s the timber companies and their chemicals!

Is this statement a fact Slim?

Or are you just being sarcastic? I'm assuming sarcastic. The fact that it's over on the east side is extremely saddening and the effects of this disease on the herds will be devastating for decades to come. Me personally, I've dealt with it for over 20-years now with my local herds here on the coast and have had to put down enough animals versus watching them being eaten alive or starving. Either way, it's truly heartbreaking.

Is it chemicals from the timber companies? Maybe...
Is it a disease that formed naturally? Maybe....
Is it a disease that came about because of a weakened immune system? Maybe....
Is it a combination of all of these things and other factors that we're not aware? Maybe....And in my opinion, more than likely. 

I do know that it's impossible to eradicate and as of right now, incurable! Unless we plan on randomly slaughtering herds. And they tried that, and it didn't work. The large herds that were so common here in SW WA have been decimated and unless some miracle occurs in the near future, the east herds will see the same fate. 

It was sarcasm. See my post above.

I have hunted Western WA elk for 23 years. I am well aware of the progression. 20 years ago I was chasing elk right across the river from the football field in Pe Ell that had multiple with hoof rot and bad limps. Thankfully this condition is regional on the Westside and is not evenly distributed. It must be due to the relatively tiny range of coastal elk (which supports my buddy’s theory of bovine interaction). In the very large area I have hunted for the last 15 years, I have not witnessed a single elk affected by hoof rot. My partner and I have killed a pile of them, and I have watched hundreds of elk.


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The herd in my neighborhood are all sick. 25 to 30.

Any cows in their home range?


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Yes, many.

[blackveltbowhunter]

Slim 9300 is there any idea how the cows got it? Or where it came from in the bovine world?