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Is there an advantage to 115’s?
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From my perspective, it isn't like hunting ammo where there are hundreds of thousands of cases every year along with personal experience. 99.9% of people won't ever use self defense ammo. Thus, the only thing available is very thin data virtually exclusively from LEO encounters where sufficient documentation exists.Many LE organizations will only use one of a very few choices, they go with what the big departments spec out.From that, I only consider ammo that has been used and documented and proven. I think there are many other good choices, but they haven't and likely won't ever be proven because the use cases are so small relatively. I placed zero credibility on jello tests, phone books, milk jugs, cow bones or whatever else has been thought up.The ammo is often very expensive and somewhat difficult to find, but a small box or two will last a very long time. Run a magazine or two to verify operation in your mag/gun combo and then rest assured you did the best preparation possible. I went an extra step and ran a couple of tests with near full and near empty mags and limp wrist, but there is only so much you can do. My view is to find something that is known to work and then go about your business.
I went back and forth with a guy that does testing for the FBI and a bunch of other LEO services. Specifically he tests how deadly specific rounds are, how they perform in various conditions, penetrate armor, etc...He recommended Winchester Ranger 127gr +p+ for 9mm. So that is what I use. For what it's worth.
Quote from: stlusn30-06 on August 26, 2020, 11:17:57 AMI went back and forth with a guy that does testing for the FBI and a bunch of other LEO services. Specifically he tests how deadly specific rounds are, how they perform in various conditions, penetrate armor, etc...He recommended Winchester Ranger 127gr +p+ for 9mm. So that is what I use. For what it's worth.Winchester Ranger is used by a number of law enforcement agencies. I have a number of boxes of Ranger 9mm, and it is marked Law Enforcement Ammunition right on the box.
Quote from: Igor on August 26, 2020, 11:35:17 AMQuote from: stlusn30-06 on August 26, 2020, 11:17:57 AMI went back and forth with a guy that does testing for the FBI and a bunch of other LEO services. Specifically he tests how deadly specific rounds are, how they perform in various conditions, penetrate armor, etc...He recommended Winchester Ranger 127gr +p+ for 9mm. So that is what I use. For what it's worth.Winchester Ranger is used by a number of law enforcement agencies. I have a number of boxes of Ranger 9mm, and it is marked Law Enforcement Ammunition right on the box.I use that in one of my handguns, but it doesn't load well in the other 9mm I have. The bullets are a bit longer and different shaped than most and every once in a while it would hang up on the lip of the hollow point when feeding. It's actually the only bullet that gun has ever had a problem with and I've probably put at least 20-30 different bullet types through it - factory and reloads shooting IDPA several years ago.