Breadcrumb Nocks

[CP]

What will they think of next? 

[h20hunter]

Hmmm. Not sure where I am on this. Initial thought is I'm good with really almost anything that ethically helps recover wounded or downed game....ie tracking dogs or illuminated nocks.

[MR5x5]

Me?  Nope.  As stated, I'm all good with improving recovery.  This is not that.  This is saving $10 on an arrow.  This is increased gimmickry.   

[Sandberm]

I'm locked in the stone age and am not aware of this breadcrumb stuff.

What's the down side to recovering an animal or arrow?

What down side is there?

[Stein]

I'm for it, I agree that you will likely have to be very close anyway, but it would certainly help with recovering arrows and the less broadheads laying on the forest floor the better.  It does nothing to increase the number of animals shot except for an argument that people might take more questionable shots which I don't really agree with.

It would also be helpful for grouse arrows which have the tendency to flip up at weird angles and disappear into bushes or even target arrows that miss and disappear under the grass.

I did see a YouTube where a guy was using trad gear and a very long, tiny string that he used to track it.  It was pretty cool, kind of like a cross between hunting and fishing.

[follow maggie]

It’s probably not something I’d pay for, but it doesn’t improve a hunters odds in taking an animal, so I’m not against it.

[Russ McDonald]

My thoughts are that it would improve the tracking of an animal only if the arrow is still with the animal.  Most likely that will not happen.  It would really only be for the recovery of the arrow. 

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[Survival Pack]

I had not heard of it but I am not opposed.  Probably won't be buying or using it but I'm with Stein......What is the downside of recovering a arrow with a broadhead on it that could do harm to other humans or animals?  And if the animal is hit, and the arrow happens to remain with the animal.....isn't it better to recover it and tag it (on the small chance that this could help with that) verses the animal lying dead and wasted?

[MR5x5]

Would you feel the same about a GPS transmitter in the back of the arrow?

[RockCreek]

I can see some value here. Maybe not.   Finding your arrow after hitting an animal is more about what the arrow tells me about the hit and less about just getting back $15.00 to $30.00 bucks worth of arrow.  Good frothy blood vs liver or gut... you know.   In my experience if an arrow doesn't pass thru an animal but stays in.... It doesn't usually stay in for long.  They usually break off whatever is hanging outside the body and that  broken off part can tell you a lot about your hit. Thing is that broken off arrow can be hard to find ...  This trackable nock may help in some situations like that.   My 2 cents

[Jake T]

An argument against these type of nocks is that hunters may be more prone to take questionable shots, or use lower poundage setups to try and make the arrow stay in the animal and allow them to follow said animal for a second shot. So instead of the deer getting away, the hunter follows and kills it.

Personally I think it’s a bad argument, but that’s one of the things I’ve heard people say as a con to this type of thing.

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[Stein]

Yeah, but I could make the same argument about compound bows, it only encourages people to make longer shots. 

Personally, I can't imagine someone aiming for bone in hopes the arrow won't fall out, but then again humanity disappoints on a regular basis.

[MR5x5]

Gadget madness.  Would like to put more "arc" back in archery....but it's never going to happen.

[dreamingbig]

I am a no.


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[andersonjk4]

I listened to a podcast with the creator of the Breadcrumb nock and thought I would share how this works for those who have not looked into to it.  (I have not used the product, and am not sure where I stand on the proposal yet).  Anyway, these nocks use a bluetooth signal transmitter located in the nock to send a signal that is received by your smart phone. An app on your phone is then able to give you an arrow pointing in the direction of the signal.  I can't remember if it gives you an approximate distance or not.  But the fact that this uses bluetooth technology really limits the signal distance.  If I remember correctly the signal was only good for about 50 yards.  I did just read on the breadcrumb website they have incorporated an ringing feature to help locate the arrow audibly. 

[carpsniperg2]

I put it in the same boat as a lighted nock. It’s not going to increase the killing power or help you kill a animal.

It will only help in recovery of your animal. Helping you find the arrow. If it breaks off then helps you find it to check blood. If it stays in the animal it can help find the animal. Less loss animals with higher recovery rates isn’t a bad thing.

Though I will probably never buy them, I have no problems with them.

[Jonathan_S]

I would worry about this influencing people to take even more questionable shots. Doesn't mean I'm correct but that's the first thing I thought about.

[Jingles]

Aren't the majority of good clean ethical killing shots pass through anyhow and gut shots are definitely pass through so I can't se how these would be any benefit except for those that needed more practice before venturig into the woods with sticks and strings

[Stein]

It would help you find your arrow when it goes into the grass, either with a pass through or miss.  You have to be less than 50' away, so it's pretty limited use for tracking.

[Jonathan_S]

Aren't the majority of good clean ethical killing shots pass through anyhow and gut shots are definitely pass through so I can't se how these would be any benefit except for those that needed more practice before venturig into the woods with sticks and strings

Mechanical broadheads, longer shots, low poundage, quartering shots, shoulders, full gut bags.

Lots of reasons for a non pass through.

[Special T]

I put it in the same boat as a lighted nock. It’s not going to increase the killing power or help you kill a animal.

It will only help in recovery of your animal. Helping you find the arrow. If it breaks off then helps you find it to check blood. If it stays in the animal it can help find the animal. Less loss animals with higher recovery rates isn’t a bad thing.

Though I will probably never buy them, I have no problems with them.

Im right ther with you. Only time ive shot lighted knocks was low light shooting at Silver Arrow Bowmen  indoor range for shooting games with the recurve.

The arguments  for and against are the same as lighted knocks and we havent seen a huge increase in harvest since they became legal, and that was... 10 ish years ago?

I was just discussing this with a friend and the only non pass through shot where this might help recover an animal would be an elk in our experience. We both have only had pass through shots on deer. I. Some cases we have experienced really tight shots to the front shoulder where the arrow broke off on elk.  But then again it will reside in the knock area so if that gets snapped off from the leg running im not sure how useful it will be.


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[Russ McDonald]

I put it in the same boat as a lighted nock. It’s not going to increase the killing power or help you kill a animal.

It will only help in recovery of your animal. Helping you find the arrow. If it breaks off then helps you find it to check blood. If it stays in the animal it can help find the animal. Less loss animals with higher recovery rates isn’t a bad thing.

Though I will probably never buy them, I have no problems with them.

Im right ther with you. Only time ive shot lighted knocks was low light shooting at Silver Arrow Bowmen  indoor range for shooting games with the recurve.

The arguments  for and against are the same as lighted knocks and we havent seen a huge increase in harvest since they became legal, and that was... 10 ish years ago?

I was just discussing this with a friend and the only non pass through shot where this might help recover an animal would be an elk in our experience. We both have only had pass through shots on deer. I. Some cases we have experienced really tight shots to the front shoulder where the arrow broke off on elk.  But then again it will reside in the knock area so if that gets snapped off from the leg running im not sure how useful it will be.


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Lighted knocks was no more than 5 years ago.  I agree no huge increase and harvest ans they didn't make me take questionable shots but I was able to recover my arrows on the shots I did take.  I think the bread crumb would be the same thing.

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[Jingles]

Here is another thought on making changes to insure recovery of game.
Why not just put a fishing real on the end of your stabilizer and use a high viz  line?

[Stein]

Here is another thought on making changes to insure recovery of game.
Why not just put a fishing real on the end of your stabilizer and use a high viz  line?

I saw a guy do this on YouTube.  They make a special device that has a ton of line on it, can't remember how much but it was a lot of line.  I would be afraid of a tangle and then my bow goes flying through the woods.

[NOCK NOCK]

I believe those were called String Trackers, They were alot more prevelant back in the 80's. Picture a sewing thread spool mounted in your Bear whitetail compound, with a tiny clip that screwed in between the arrow and head.
I never used them, but did come across 2 different times where i found a very long expanse of string from them. One was along a road for about a 1/2 mile. 

[Special T]

I believe those were called String Trackers, They were alot more prevelant back in the 80's. Picture a sewing thread spool mounted in your Bear whitetail compound, with a tiny clip that screwed in between the arrow and head.
I never used them, but did come across 2 different times where i found a very long expanse of string from them. One was along a road for about a 1/2 mile. 

Timber cruises some times use small thread like that, but often its in the woods not aling a road.

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