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Offline fishngamereaper

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2020, 06:15:31 AM »
Why does this topic keep coming up? If it’s closed to motorized access, it’s closed to e-bikes, period. An e-bike has a motor. Bikes are allowed places e-bikes are not for this exact reason. The motor is the difference, and private land owners get to dictate the conditions of entry, if any, for their property. If you violate those conditions you’re guilty of criminal trespass. You likewise have no “right” to use private property as an easement to otherwise inaccessible public land. You must obtain easement rights from the property owner to have access.

This stuff isn’t that complicated. If you don’t own it or have explicit permission from the owner to be there doing what you’re doing, how you’re doing it, then you’re wrong. There’s no gray area to debate. And the more people who disregard simple rules, the more likely we all lose what little access we have.

I have zero tolerance for people who didregard the posted rules. I report all of them I come across, because I’m not willing to risk losing access for me, my kids, or my friends. We’re all supposed to be conservationists. If you guys like having places and animals to hunt you better weed out every bad actor you can, or you’ll lose access to both.

 :yeah: Its really not that confusing.

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2020, 08:12:19 AM »
The signs into Sierra property say e-bikes are NOT allowed.  It doesn't say what kind, when, etc etc.  That settles that debate. Don't know about Hancock as I've never stepped foot on their property, but Sierra signage I've seen is clear.

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2020, 08:20:09 AM »
I've been lurking here.
And not really wanting to post.
But will anyway the signage in some of these area is pretty cut and dry.
Is all in saying.

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2020, 08:29:24 AM »
Man, there’s too many entitled, selfish people in here advocating for *censored* that will get access taken away from all of us. Take 30 seconds and think about something other than yourselves

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2020, 08:51:08 AM »
The signs into Sierra property say e-bikes are NOT allowed.  It doesn't say what kind, when, etc etc.  That settles that debate. Don't know about Hancock as I've never stepped foot on their property, but Sierra signage I've seen is clear.
This is 100% correct.

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2020, 08:53:37 AM »
Hancock rules are very clear and specially states that e-bikes (as well as quads, dirt bikes, snowmobiles, etc) are not allowed on the property; Even in the back of your truck.

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2020, 09:34:29 AM »
Hancock calls this out explicitly and has signs for it too. @fishngamereaper explained the land use and rules perfectly - owners have clear constitutional rights and can define access rules as they want. And I think we all agree that if any activity leads to reduced hunting rights, then it's better to avoid it. If using e-bikes for hunting can lead to revoked land access then it already defeats its purpose

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Re: Sierra - Hancock - Weyerhauser E-Bikes
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2020, 07:10:30 PM »
Last time I checked pope allowed e bikes unless specifically posted at the gate. I know Rayonier bought out pope but until next year all pope land access and rules still apply. Unless someone knows different?

 


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