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Backpacking gear for kids
« on: December 30, 2020, 03:57:52 PM »
KF's thread got me thinking about this topic.. As my little mouth breathers get older, we are slowly easing them into the ways of a backpack hunter. A big struggle is finding stuff that works for the kiddos without spending a fortune and if you do have some extra coin, what do you allocate it towards?  My kids are both pretty small for their age and polar opposites when it comes to things like hot and cold. My daughter wears sweatshirts when it's 90° and my son has to be forced to put on pants when we head out to build a snowman. 

So what gear/clothes have been good pieces for hunting/backpacking? These are some of the things I've been messing with for the kids that have worked well.

Packs:
For my daughter I got her a Deuter Fox 40. Its a few bucks more than a few other options but is a tad bit better as far as fit and layout.

For my son, we have an rei tarn 18 pack. Its super light and is perfect for a bottle of water, some food, and his fire starting kit. It could definitely fit his sleeping bag if I was taking him hunting and needed him to take some space eating bulk out of my pack.

Sleeping bags:
This has been a struggle. Kids bags are absurdly heavy for as small as they are and there are literally no cold temp kids options. Currently using a set of kelty bags that kinda suck.
For Wyatt I think I'm going to try a Big Agnes Duster 15°. For Addison I think I'm gonna bight the bullet and get her a solid 0° or even negative degree down  women's bag and just stuff the bottom or tie up the extra material to kill space until she grows some.

Boots:
Exclusively rocky boots right now as they are pretty much the only affordable boot with insulation. Wyatt can take Addisons hand me downs but that still only means 2 seasons total on a pair of boots.

Coats:
This is a definite "need to buy" item this year. We've been limping buy on bulky snow jackets and various things but need to pin down a good puffy jacket for Addison.  Been thinking of just ordering half a dozen off Amazon and returning the losers.
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2020, 04:16:38 PM »
Tagging along on this one

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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2020, 04:35:13 PM »
Karl pretty much summed it up, I'm on the other side of that gear train.

At the end of the day, it's the price of admission, you will be buying boots and coats that on a good year will have one season of use.  For big game, that's maybe a week and then try to squeak out some other trips and they are too small before you imagine it possible.

Some years we got 3-4 days, others 10-20.  Even if it's a single trip, it's still worth it in my mind.

For boots, I was always super vigilant on sales and the Bargain Cave (back when there were actually bargains there). I could usually get a decent quality insulated boot for $50-75.  Same with coats, find them on clearance somewhere and buy in advance.

REI is the best bet for kids sized packs beyond daypacks, the annual coupon brings them to the $130 range, maybe less for the real small ones.

On the flip side, it's a good reason to buy stuff I might not otherwise buy.  I'm looking at picking up a nice stove for my son for hunting and Scouts, I wouldn't buy it for myself but there will be plenty of days he isn't using it or we're hunting together.

Amazon hasn't been good to me for hunting clothes, TONS of absolute junk.  I tried buying a pair of insulated bibs and you could literally hold them up to light and see through them.  There are probably some decent stuff, but I haven't had luck compared with clearance or just great sales or coupons from the big stores.  Their house brand stuff is usually good quality and much less expensive.

Finally, we ended up with about 1/2 the things being hunters orange vs camo (or even solid colors).  The price difference is usually pretty big and they are much more likely to end up on sale or clearance as nobody around here is too excited to be wearing orange bibs.  A quick trip through the wash with dye can at least tame it a bit.

If you have boys and girls, think twice about anything pink as it doesn't hand down well.   :chuckle:

Hand it down, give it away or sell it here and remember how much you spent on that last bowl of tag soup to keep things in perspective.

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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2020, 04:45:49 PM »
For a jacket, I'd hit an Eddie Bauer outlet and pick up a puffy or 6. They can be had for $40 if you watch for sales. My kid has had a nice puffy every year since she was probably 5 including this year, all of them under $50.00
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2020, 05:23:27 PM »
My two older boys have been going on backpack trips with me since they were 4 (8 and 6 now), the third is almost 3 and will be along when he is 4. The packs I’m using are an REI Tarn and an Osprey Passage 40. This year they both used Trekking poles for the first time, I think they’re an REI model youth. They really liked them for poking critter dens and holes.  :chuckle: Sleeping setup, bags are a standard youth bag , not sure of the brand. I do bring each a lightweight down quilt to line there bags on colder trips. Each have a youth REI pad. I keep them in a synthetic base layer , we buy a few sets each year of the 32 Deg Costco stuff, both boys run hot and they haven’t complained of being cold yet. Fred Meyer has been good right after winter season on picking up next years coats at tremendous discounts. From light rain coats to mid to heavy. I basically layer them and set them up just as I am. Costco had this year Eddie Bauer hiking pack that zipped off at the knee, picked up 2 sets for each and they’ve been good. It’s wet in North Idaho so quick dry is key.  This year on our high country summer trip, they each carried a water, their bag, quilt, pad , poles and coat and I slipped some snacks in each of their packs. Gloves we again buy the Costco brand (head) gloves, waterproof set and the regular jogging style gloves.

Boots has been my hang up and bridge I’m yet to successfully cross, summer fair weather stuff they have been using their cross shoes, for cold , snow and wet I found some off brand insulated snow style boots that fit snug and cinch from the ankle up. Seem to do well enough.  This coming fall I may put my older son in an actual quality boot that can be passed Down through the boys.

So far everything has been working well for them with out breaking the bank. We’ve been in flash snow sleet storms, rain and lightning and smoking hot summer sun. With kids, their gear and set up will be ever changing so buy second hand, shop deals and pay attention to their needs.
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2020, 05:34:57 PM »
Costco has definitely been great for kid clothing for us. Quarter zip fleeces, long johns, gloves, socks, etc. Even picked up new skiing helmets there a few weeks back.
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2020, 05:38:53 PM »
Hardest part is explaining to them just cause it’s waterproof doesn’t mean you can play in the water.  :chuckle:
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2020, 06:10:47 PM »
My two older boys have been going on backpack trips with me since they were 4 (8 and 6 now), the third is almost 3 and will be along when he is 4. The packs I’m using are an REI Tarn and an Osprey Passage 40. This year they both used Trekking poles for the first time, I think they’re an REI model youth. They really liked them for poking critter dens and holes.  :chuckle: Sleeping setup, bags are a standard youth bag , not sure of the brand. I do bring each a lightweight down quilt to line there bags on colder trips. Each have a youth REI pad. I keep them in a synthetic base layer , we buy a few sets each year of the 32 Deg Costco stuff, both boys run hot and they haven’t complained of being cold yet. Fred Meyer has been good right after winter season on picking up next years coats at tremendous discounts. From light rain coats to mid to heavy. I basically layer them and set them up just as I am. Costco had this year Eddie Bauer hiking pack that zipped off at the knee, picked up 2 sets for each and they’ve been good. It’s wet in North Idaho so quick dry is key.  This year on our high country summer trip, they each carried a water, their bag, quilt, pad , poles and coat and I slipped some snacks in each of their packs. Gloves we again buy the Costco brand (head) gloves, waterproof set and the regular jogging style gloves.

Boots has been my hang up and bridge I’m yet to successfully cross, summer fair weather stuff they have been using their cross shoes, for cold , snow and wet I found some off brand insulated snow style boots that fit snug and cinch from the ankle up. Seem to do well enough.  This coming fall I may put my older son in an actual quality boot that can be passed Down through the boys.

So far everything has been working well for them with out breaking the bank. We’ve been in flash snow sleet storms, rain and lightning and smoking hot summer sun. With kids, their gear and set up will be ever changing so buy second hand, shop deals and pay attention to their needs.

My kids are set up almost identical.  Started them in the Gila at 2 and 3 years of age on their own two feet, and I carried them around the mountains before they could walk. In winter, around the house or playing in snow, they have big coats from 2nd hand stores and are replaced yearly.  For backpacking we go with layers.  Columbia fleece jackets seem to be in good supply at 2nd hand stores, costco thermals, columbia rain jackets (from fred meyer i think).  Pants are usually some kind of cotton blend or track suit polyester thing over thermals.  I know i know, cotton kills.  But I started out in jeans and flannels and learned to stay dry and lived to tell the tale so...  one thing i learned quick: buy good socks!  Darn tough kids sizes or similar quality.  Nothing will try your patience more than a kid who keeps stopping to pull a slipping sock up ALL DAY LONG.  I think dry feet, good snacks, pockets full of treats, and you could dress a kid in a garbage bag over a blanket and they probably wont care.  Crappy snacks = crappy morale in my unit.  We march on our stomachs. 

Kids are 7 and 9 now, and seemed to increase their range by about a mile each year.  We go slow, real slow.  They carry their sleeping bags, clothing, water, headlamps, and whatever else they choose to hump around.  I found a handful of rocks in one backpack last time we got home.  Guess its time to increase the load 😂.  Excited for you!  Being out with your kids is a crap ton of work until they start learning how to look after themselves in the backcountry, but its awesome to see them do it. 

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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2020, 06:22:15 PM »
My two older boys have been going on backpack trips with me since they were 4 (8 and 6 now), the third is almost 3 and will be along when he is 4. The packs I’m using are an REI Tarn and an Osprey Passage 40. This year they both used Trekking poles for the first time, I think they’re an REI model youth. They really liked them for poking critter dens and holes.  :chuckle: Sleeping setup, bags are a standard youth bag , not sure of the brand. I do bring each a lightweight down quilt to line there bags on colder trips. Each have a youth REI pad. I keep them in a synthetic base layer , we buy a few sets each year of the 32 Deg Costco stuff, both boys run hot and they haven’t complained of being cold yet. Fred Meyer has been good right after winter season on picking up next years coats at tremendous discounts. From light rain coats to mid to heavy. I basically layer them and set them up just as I am. Costco had this year Eddie Bauer hiking pack that zipped off at the knee, picked up 2 sets for each and they’ve been good. It’s wet in North Idaho so quick dry is key.  This year on our high country summer trip, they each carried a water, their bag, quilt, pad , poles and coat and I slipped some snacks in each of their packs. Gloves we again buy the Costco brand (head) gloves, waterproof set and the regular jogging style gloves.

Boots has been my hang up and bridge I’m yet to successfully cross, summer fair weather stuff they have been using their cross shoes, for cold , snow and wet I found some off brand insulated snow style boots that fit snug and cinch from the ankle up. Seem to do well enough.  This coming fall I may put my older son in an actual quality boot that can be passed Down through the boys.

So far everything has been working well for them with out breaking the bank. We’ve been in flash snow sleet storms, rain and lightning and smoking hot summer sun. With kids, their gear and set up will be ever changing so buy second hand, shop deals and pay attention to their needs.

My kids are set up almost identical.  Started them in the Gila at 2 and 3 years of age on their own two feet, and I carried them around the mountains before they could walk. In winter, around the house or playing in snow, they have big coats from 2nd hand stores and are replaced yearly.  For backpacking we go with layers.  Columbia fleece jackets seem to be in good supply at 2nd hand stores, costco thermals, columbia rain jackets (from fred meyer i think).  Pants are usually some kind of cotton blend or track suit polyester thing over thermals.  I know i know, cotton kills.  But I started out in jeans and flannels and learned to stay dry and lived to tell the tale so...  one thing i learned quick: buy good socks!  Darn tough kids sizes or similar quality.  Nothing will try your patience more than a kid who keeps stopping to pull a slipping sock up ALL DAY LONG.  I think dry feet, good snacks, pockets full of treats, and you could dress a kid in a garbage bag over a blanket and they probably wont care.  Crappy snacks = crappy morale in my unit.  We march on our stomachs. 

Kids are 7 and 9 now, and seemed to increase their range by about a mile each year.  We go slow, real slow.  They carry their sleeping bags, clothing, water, headlamps, and whatever else they choose to hump around.  I found a handful of rocks in one backpack last time we got home.  Guess its time to increase the load 😂.  Excited for you!  Being out with your kids is a crap ton of work until they start learning how to look after themselves in the backcountry, but its awesome to see them do it.

 :chuckle: the rocks is funny! My boys pack home E V E R Y bone they find. I could put together a whitetail doe skeleton from the pile in my garage.  :chuckle:
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2020, 06:40:46 PM »
Karl, you are close to Yakima, right?  I don't know if this is an option for you, but Goodwill stores have lots of stuff that your kids could use.  If you ever get to the westside, Bellevue etc. would be a great place to shop.
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2020, 06:55:09 PM »
Oh don't misunderstand me, we have mountains of gear and like others,, ive been dragging my kids around the mountains long before they could walk.. Simply started this as a sounding board for ideas and experiences.  You Westside guys are lucky as in you have Eddie Baeurs and rei's and your second hand stores are probably a ton better than crakima :chuckle:
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2020, 07:14:45 PM »
I’ve likely spent more time in the Eddie Bauer store in Lewiston, ID than I have at the store in Woodinville. 
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2020, 07:52:12 PM »
I’ve likely spent more time in the Eddie Bauer store in Lewiston, ID than I have at the store in Woodinville.
which is equally as far from Yakima  :chuckle:
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2020, 08:22:46 PM »
We lived in Bozeman for a year and there was a couple second hand sporting goods stores, holy crap there was some awesome stuff to be had.
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Re: Backpacking gear for kids
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2020, 08:25:14 PM »
Oh don't misunderstand me, we have mountains of gear and like others,, ive been dragging my kids around the mountains long before they could walk.. Simply started this as a sounding board for ideas and experiences.  You Westside guys are lucky as in you have Eddie Baeurs and rei's and your second hand stores are probably a ton better than crakima :chuckle:

The Chelan re-store and Twisp senior center certainly  can be gold mines in spring.  Clearing the closets of those westside 2nd vacation homes I guess?  Still not close to Yakima.  Where is Crakima anyway? Across the tracks from Yakivegas i assume?

Does anybody make gaiters for kids?  That would make backcountry boots not even a concern for me until winter.  And then its all rubber boots with liners anyway until april or may. 

 


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